Public asked (invited) to swear allegiance to King Charles

I disagree. For most, it will be an extra holiday.

You mean on Monday…

Its an extra day off, like we had for the Jubilee last year.

I quite agree it would be good if we got more bank holidays in the UK (Scotland and I think NI already get more then England) - and that they should be more spaced out - but that is an unrelated issue

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I agree, Autumn feels like a dearth of holidays!

Still I work bank holidays and get the day off in Lieu, as I have a long holiday coming up the three bank holidays work out very well for me. Combined with the Easter ones, covers a whole week away

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Of course in many countries, if they have 2 public holidays in a week the day(s) in the middle also becomes a holiday…

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Jubilee last year several people at work were quite upset because they’d already booked all their holiday in advance and the sudden announcement of an extra holiday took them over their allowance… No idea whether they just had to reschedule or they got an extra day rollover to this year.

I’ve been there long enough that I have more holiday than I can use, so it doesn’t affect me so much.

Well no, but my point was if it was against the law for shops to open on bank holidays then Boxing Day sales wouldn’t exist.

Yes most shops close, but it’s a choice the shop owners make.

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The extra holiday was announced in November 2020.

I wouldn’t describe 18 months+ notice as a sudden announcement.

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Although I’m not a big supporter of the monarchy I enjoyed watching the service and the pageantry today. I actually missed the swearing of allegiance part when I had to pop to the loo.

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Might have been thinking of the one after that in September for the funeral.

This part by the ways depends on how your contract is written. If your contract states ‘X number of days + bank holidays’, you get an extra day, if your contract states ‘X number of days holiday’ then you wouldn’t usually get an extra day added.

I’m not sure what’s normal. Most of my contracts have been written like the former for office jobs and the latter for, say, catering jobs. Statutory holiday allowance doesn’t include bank holidays separately, so if it isn’t written into your contract then it’s not a given you’ll get it.

I think it’s probably one of those things employers and employees never bothered to think about before as the number of bank holidays was mostly consistent, until last year and this year when we started getting loads extra :smiley: . Back to normal service after this I expect.

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I thought it was only announced about a month before… certainly that’s when I (and many at work) heard about it (and also exactly what the holidays including bank holidays actually meant practically).

It was sudden enough it caused issues. This time around less so, as presumably whatever workaround they hammered out last time automatically went into effect (probably involving a bit of handwaving and ‘don’t worry about it’).

Yeah wiki reckons it was 10 years between the previous extra bank holiday and the jubilee. It just wasn’t something we ever thought about.

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What I was going to say.

https://www.farleys.com/employment-law-advice-bank-holiday-announced-for-queen-elizabeth-iis-funeral/ provides more detail.

I believe most contracts entitie workers to an extra day off, though as you say it depends on the individual contract.

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Are you sure you’re not thinking of the sudden one in September? Being after the July-August holiday period a lot of people had used a lot of their leave, which was why some I knew faced issues.

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I’m in IT and every place I’ve ever worked has just lumped all the holidays including christmas as one big holiday allowance, just that some days have to be taken at certain time (christmans->new year week for example, as well as bank holidays).

I wonder if it’s to inflate the numbers to attract new people… or just tradition… no idea. It would be an entirely boring distinction if the bank holidays were constant :stuck_out_tongue:

(Interestingly I just checked MentorLive and they’ve not added them there, so they only count 36 days instead of the number in my contract (which was IIRC 42 days plus 1 day per year of service, so should be over 50 by now)).

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Work in IT also and never had this personally.

I’ve always had x days Annual Leave + Bank Holidays. Any mandated days e.g Christmas shut down have been added in addition to the normal annual leave allowance.

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From what I saw at the IKEA today, which sits on a retail park with other stores the footfall was definitely down and a good smattering of parking, but I wouldn’t call it dead.

Usually on a Saturday it would be rammed and you would be lucky to find a space convienient enough/close by. I reckon at least when I went the car park was maybe 50-60% full.

Yeah I could find a parking space… and I ate lunch at the local cafe without having to wait for a space… so footfall was definitely down. Difficult to tell by how much. Saturday mornings are wierd around here… they can be very quiet some days and rammed the next. Saturday afternoons are when it really kicks off.

Surprised nearly everything was open. I’m not sure what time the enkinging was but was probably about the time I was shopping… I’d braced myself for going there and being limited to the supermarket… memories of what happened the saturday after diana died (might have been the funeral? not sure. everything closed at once).

Weird question, but it appears churches over the country are playing “cambridge surprise royal”

n = 2, 1 = westminster abbey and the other being Liverpool Anglican Cathedral

Would anyone happen to have a link to common bell ringing songs in the UK? I would like to develop the skill of hearing some bells ringing and being able to name them (purely as a party trick…)

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My first thought was that charles was the least surprising royal in history :stuck_out_tongue:

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My first thought was “I seem to recall watching a TV programme last year which at one part had people listening to church bells from a distance and naming that tune.” :joy:

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