How Monzo managed to make large payments even worse

Not true.

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Yes, you can receive payments in euros directly into a monzo account via SEPA.

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Yes.

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Itā€™s clearly an out of date page.

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Not for me - the first result is to a post here on the community.

This is more up to date on our website. Same info as in app help.

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This is my first result (that isnā€™t from the forum)- https://monzo.com/blog/2018/07/24/receiving-international-payments

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There are a few reasons why you canā€™t reliably receive international payments into your Monzo account.
We arenā€™t connected with SEPA and SWIFT
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Not sure who looks like the blogs, but it might be worth to put a note saying its been updated with a link to the new versionā€¦ or update that version

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As a follow up to my post a few weeks back, I had another large payment to make today and another terrible experience with Monzo support. I made my request to raise limits, I had a query regarding the payment evidence via a chat message, I replied immediately, no response at all then a notification that my large payment was refused.

Proceed 45+ minutes of me pinging messages on what they call ā€œchatā€ (anything but) and zero response.

Iā€™m sorry but this is simply not the level of service I expect from my bank when trying to access my money.

I am switching my primary account to First Direct, their support has always been fantastic - responding to chat and even phone calls almost immediately pretty much every time I have contacted them 24x7 - and it seems their app has been playing some catch up recently too, not quite at Monzo levels of functionality, but not far off.

As a Monzo investor Iā€™m very disappointed.

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I know thereā€™s an issue with speed of handing limit raise requests, but didnā€™t realise Monzo sometimes refuse these requests.

Did they explain why they refused the request?

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Not to dismiss the negative experience above but my own recent experience getting my limits raised was a breeze.

I bought a car last week. Asked for a limit increase to be applied on the same day as the request, less than an hour later I got it approved and my limit was increased until the end of the following day.

In the end the purchase didnā€™t happen but a few days later I went through the same process, got approved again within an hour, and had until the end of the following day to make the purchase. Which I did.

All in all pretty smooth.

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Impossible.

According to this community nobody buys a car on the same day.

Thatā€™s what everyone told me when I started this thread.

I wonder if itā€™s something with your account as thatā€™s the second time youā€™ve had the same problem and many others are getting it raised with no issue?

Thanks, just to replay I got this right. Main issue the 24 hour turnaround? What would be a timeline that you find acceptable? Assume within the hour and if for some exception it takes longer for someone to reach out/message/call? Would love to hear folks thoughts

Fernando
Monzo CPO

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Within the hour.

Ideally it would just not need approval. Itā€™s my money, let me do with it as I will.

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Praise where itā€™s due: I recently had a good experience with raising my limits:

That said, if Iā€™m reading @alexmoore right, it all went horribly wrong for him when he either tried to raise the limits through chat, or was passed to chat to answer a question.

Iā€™m sorry to put it in such terms, but every time I have to speak to someone on Monzo chat my soul dies a bit. Iā€™m sure everyone at Monzo is well intentioned but as a system itā€™s fundamentally broken: late replies, messages not read properly, passed from person to person, messages ignored, self referrals to complaints which are then ignored, and issues left unresolved. Itā€™s horrible to the point where Iā€™m considering leaving Monzo because of it.

For me, Iā€™d expect near instant. If I go to a high street bank branch Iā€™d expect to be able to make the transaction there and then. If I call a contract centre, I expect the same. So Monzo really needs to make sure its service is on a par with what we call legacy.

If immediate is not possible then managing expectations as much as possible. Set realistic timelines and stick to them. But within the hour, please. An elegant way to deal with exceptions or ask questions seems to be whatā€™s needed here.

What Iā€™d really want is something like a dynamic flow that just changes the transaction screen if itā€™s a higher value transaction. And to perhaps take into account whether itā€™s a payment to myself, if Iā€™ve paid it before or if the account is connected via open banking. They should (I think) derisk it. I donā€™t mind additional questions, but Iā€™m looking for a customer friendly, immediate, solution wherever possible. And one that avoids chat at all costs.

PS itā€™s great to see you popping up on here and proactively looking at things. Big fan of that. :hot_coral_heart:

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Hereā€™s the thing, and I genuinely think itā€™s one of the only things that Monzo hasnā€™t quite got right, as yet.

I appreciate thereā€™s a flow and this is good. But, for me personally if I want to transfer this money I either want.

It to work fine without issue
If thereā€™s an issue, the ability to speak to someone right there and then.

Phone would be preferable but as an optional choice, the ability to have actual live chat where youā€™re connected to an agent and they deal with the issue there and then.

Hereā€™s the other thing. If youā€™re connected to an agent and they donā€™t quite get it right, or need clarification, you can sort out any differences there and then.

With Monzo you have to hope the agent gets the intent first time. Because if they donā€™t theyā€™ll either come back with a meant well but wrong response, the perfect response or just pass it onto a ā€œspecialistā€.

Iā€™m aware im straying away slightly from this thread so let me bring it back here.

What would help in terms of large payments. Ideal would be self serve and instant, if thatā€™s not possible instant support.

Generally:

  • better agent empowerment as it feels like 90pc of support needs only ā€œspecialistsā€ can deal with.
  • Single thread ownership, ideally on demand but if not as little handoff as possible
  • Phone support. Sometimes itā€™s just not ideal or even appropriate to have ā€œchatā€
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My main issue this time was that Monzo contacted me regarding the request on chat and I responded immediately, but I had no actual interaction/response despite me pinging multiple times - instead they then rejected the request and replied 8+ hours later, hardly ā€˜chatā€™ and the telephone service is worse - as mentioned on the previous episode, you wait 20 minutes on hold only to be told you need to use chat - where nobody is responding. Overall support response (especially compared to someone like First Direct where they are super responsive) is abysmal and when itā€™s my money I want to talk about, Iā€™m sorry but I expect a timely response except in very exceptional circumstances, with Monzo poor service is now the norm from recent experiences.

I do have an issue with the requirement to provide evidence of what the payment is for - a) non of Monzoā€™s concern itā€™s my money, although I did state on the request what it was for, not sure what evidence really ensures b) in the end I simply split the payment in two anyway and transferred it under the limits, making the whole thing moot and c) I didnā€™t have to speak to anyone, provide a video of myself, provide invoices or other evidence at all at First Direct, their app walked me through a serious of checks to make sure the payee was who they are saying they are and warning me of risks of scams etc (multiple times - but that was ok) to ensure Iā€™m certain that I want to proceed, the whole thing took just a minute and it was done.

The main thing is the service, the procedural elements the requirement for evidence etc are annoyances, but if I canā€™t talk to anyone about it in a timely manner especially when they initiate the contact, then that is the main issue.

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Transferring money using Faster Payments is one of the most critical features of a bank and this feature needs to be smooth and easy. The other banks are catching up to Monzo in term of UI and app functionality so Monzo needs to make sure it is executing critical functioning like this better than any other bank.

My suggestion for a product enhancement is having an approved list of third parties / specified bank accounts which Monzo users can make large payments to that way the user only needs to approve the third party once and can then make as many Ā£10k + transfers as they like without all the tedious KYC / AML questions everytime.

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I canā€™t be the only person who refuses to read a wall of text that size without a line break.

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He said:

Iā€™m a long time user of Monzo (user 782) and I think the product is great and has saved me a lot of time and made my life significantly easier.

However, if Monzo doesnā€™t fix the larger payment functionality I will be forced to move to another bank. At the end of the day transferring money using Faster Payments is one of the most critical features of a bank and this feature needs to be smooth and easy.

The other banks are catching up to Monzo in term of UI and app functionality so Monzo needs to make sure it is executing critical functioning like this better than any other bank. My main issues with the way Monzo handles this is there doesnā€™t seem to be any customer service history and the fact itā€™s all asynchronous via chat and can be very slow.

The other banks will will at least call you if the fraud team want to validate a transaction and that call happens immediately. I have been asked for the source of my funds multiple times even though itā€™s the same money I have moving around from different savings and investment accounts - itā€™s just lazy and sloppy.

Monzo can easily see the transfers I am making between accounts so why ask for the source of funds everytime I transfer money and request a limit increase? They also need to think about increasing the payment limit in my opinion - even Ā£20k makes a significant number of these payment under the threshold and super easy.

My suggestion for a product enhancement is having an approved list of third parties / specified bank accounts which Monzo users can make large payments to that way the user only needs to approve the third party once and can then make as many Ā£10k + transfers as they like without all the tedious KYC / AML questions everytime. I joined Monzo in 2016 I was younger with a lot less money and much simpler banking requirements - Iā€™m 38 now and trying to redeem my mortgage with Santander via a final payment in the hundreds of thousands via Monzo and it has been very painful.

Perhaps I have outgrown Monzo perhaps they donā€™t want customers like me anymore. Either way hoping this is a useful bit of feedback for the product and customer support team.

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