Email Service Providers

We use IBM system. It’s not great but it does mean that they can only wipe the secure container within the app and the app itself and nothing outside it otherwise I’d probably have done the same as you

I use Edison email on my iPhone.

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Resurrecting an old thread as I’m shopping around for a new email provider, mainly because I want to change my email address. Since October, I’ve started to receive a ton of spam for some reason so I’m considering all my new email options. This has sort of been discussed in another thread (“Last bit of tech you bought”, around domain names) but asking questions about it seems most appropriate in this thread.

I’m eyeing up Fastmail because they offer features such as aliases, hosting own domains, plus subaddressing, etc. It looks good. Thinking of those features above, does anyone here use a strategy to avoid spam mail (or rather hide their real email) when providing an email address online? For example does anyone use subaddressing, despite it’s weaknesses? Or aliases? For those with their own domain email addresses, do you create a new address for each site you sign up for?

Just curious to see to what lengths, if any, people go to and how practical it is.

I use Proton in addition with SimpleLogin (since their merger) and have updated nearly all my email addresses to an alias. Monzo might be one of the only places I’ve not updated tbh.

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So, I use fastmail with my own domain.

I make heavy use of aliases, primarily for sorting purposes, e.g. shopping@, travel@, Microsoft/apple/twitter/Amazon@ (big guys get their own) and so on, but also so I have some idea of what might have gone wrong if I start getting spam through.

For more one-off giving my email out, maybe to places I don’t know that well or intend to use much, I either use the integration with 1Password to create a random alias or give them my DuckDuckGo address that auto-forwards to my fastmail (and also has the benefit of stripping out all trackers/pixels).

So it’s not an entirely cohesive strategy, but definitely do limit some places having my actual address and use a lot of different aliases day to day.

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Snap.

Aliases + 1Password integration + plus main Duck address + Duck private addresses.

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Thanks all for the advice, appreciate it. I’m experiement with a few different domains and domain extensions that I have (inadvertently found a certain domain extension is more likely to be marked as spam). Has anyone compared Fastmail with an Office 365 Exchange host?

For those above, was it the 1Password integration that sold you on Fastmail?

I’d say, for me probably yes. I considered ProtonMail but the integration meant Fastmail was the best option for a privacy focused mail provider.

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The 1Password integration was a bonus.

Biggest factor for me was just how highly regarded it is amongst tech circles.

I also like how similar to Gmail it is in use. Made switching very easy.

I am using https://purelymail.com/ at the moment for my domains and had no issues with them.

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Just to echo other opinions of Fastmail. I’ve been with them for getting on for 20 years, I think, since their free personal fastmail.fm address days. Now host most of my domains with them.

I’ve also used Microsoft Office 365 Exchange Online extensively and would recommend Fastmail over MS any day.

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I’ve been trying out Fastmail the last little while but I’ve encountered a problem I can’t seem to solve. When I send from Fastmail with my own domain to an @outlook or @gmail, the message is marked as spam regardless of the domain or TLD I’m sending from. I’ve found online this is a common problem with no solution offered from Fastmail. There is info on setting DMARC entries on your domain’s DNS as a solution but this hasn’t solved my issue. Has anyone experienced this?

No - just checked from a couple of my domains and it’s fine to gmail and outlook.com.

Have you opted for Fastmail to manage the DNS records for your domain? If not it’s important to have working DKIM, SPF and DMARC.

Are there any clues in the mail headers once received by gmail/outlook?

Was immediately going to ask about DKIM too.

It’s near impossible to use a minor domain without sender authentication as everything will just get marked as spam.

I have tried with Fastmail managing the DNS records and also setting up the DNS myself. I have also verified the “deliverability” of emails with mxtoolbox, no issues found.

I can’t spot anything obvious, no spam flags in the header and the authentication of the email seems OK…
“Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 66.111.4.230)
smtp.mailfrom=mydomain.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified)
header.d=mydomain.com;dmarc=pass action=none header.from=mydomain.com;compauth=pass
reason=100
Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of mydomain.com designates
66.111.4.230 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com;
client-ip=66.111.4.230; helo=new4-smtp.messagingengine.com; pr=C”

Very odd!

What is a minor domain?

You should be able to check under Settings > Domain if there are any issues with your setup.

Minor domain is my non technical reference for using your own domain instead of Gmail / Outlook etc.

I’m way outside of my pay grade here, but my understanding is that you’re much more likely to be marked as spam when not using one of the bigger email services.

All showing as fine in Fastmail. The issue seems specific to fastmail rather than the TLD as other online on forums have commented that moving their email to their own hosted platform resolves the issue. How strange, will keep playing about this it :slight_smile:

Could you say more about this?

I’m looking to move away from gmail because of how easy it would be for someone to take over my gmail account if they obtained my Android phone and its passcode (as highlighted by recent WSJ article). But I do like gmail - especially use of labels instead of folders.

If you’re used to and like Gmail it’s a really easy switch.

It’s functionally the same. You can use labels instead of folders, setting up filters is virtually the same, the keyboard shortcuts also match.

There may be some differences somewhere, but it was completely frictionless to transition for me.

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Thanks.

Did you happen to try either Proton Mail or Tutanota and reject them in favour of Fastmail? Is so, do you remember why?

Are there any fans of these providers here?

Asking because they seem to be popular options: https://alternativeto.net/software/gmail/