I’ve got nothing against the Netflix app but this would be very cool. I thought we were getting there a bit with watch lists being integrated but nothing since obviously.
Yeah, that’s what sparked the thought. I figure if Apple’s going to exert an “iron fist” over the App Store, might as well start asking for things I want!
Up next, you don’t have to use IAP, but if not, you have to offer Apple Pay.
That’s very interesting. I recall their reasoning for not wanting to go into the TV app was down to data that they didn’t want Apple having.
It’s possible Google’s doesn’t collect any telemetry on Netflix’s usage, shows, and viewings, but I find that hard to believe.
How does the Google integration work exactly. Could be perhaps that it’s not doing the same stuff as Apple’s tv app that would need to collect the same data in order to function.
I’d personally like see more services integrated directly into the TV app itself rather than needing so many different standalone apps.
I think it’s the other way around, by integrating into TV they would lose the viewing data which they get from people using their app.
I’m sure it’s also down to branding and customer leverage. They want you watching Netflix, not a generic show in the Apple TV app. They’d be diluting their brand and giving away leverage over their customers to Apple for no benefit.
They want their customers to be their customers, not Apple’s (with an associated Apple tax).
Conversely, for other players without Netflix’s market strength, it makes sense to integrate as they’re getting access to eyeballs they probably wouldn’t get on their own. That said, Disney Plus is in there so I’m wondering what they’re getting out of it. Amazon’s special deal is well publicised so perhaps Disney have something similar.
It’s not the same. It’s integration on the home screen so you can directly jump into your most recently watched shows, clearly labelled as Netflix.
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I’ve watched less Netflix since Apples tv app integrated all the others. Even universal search for Netflix has gone. As I’m watching less I might cancel it soon. That’s not what they wouldn’t wanted
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Netflix and Prime Video both integrate into Sky Q now, like their shows show up amongst Sky ones, no reason they couldn’t do that on Apple TV
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Coming back to this. I’d love to see Apple force video apps to properly support PIP on iOS. It’s so consumer hostile that Google paywalls this “free” functionality for YouTube.
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I am waiting for Sky to be integrated in to Apple TV boxes, not Now TV lol 
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YouTube Premium doesn’t even have PIP!
I think they wanted to make it a premium feature but Apple rightly told them they can’t charge for an OS feature - so they threw their toys out of the pram and didn’t implement it at all.
What they did do is make it so you can still hear videos playing in the background when you switch apps/sleep the device 
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Unfortunately I can’t see that ever happening, it’d affect their sales of things like MultiRoom, If by some miracle it did it might prompt me to actually use my Apple TV more, but currently it’s redundant as the Sky Q box does enough for me that it’s a great Smart TV hub, the only major app that it’s missing is Apple TV+ which is rumoured to be on the way.
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I started writing this saying I do agree to an extent. But.
The sky app has been on Xbox for years now, which has allowed me to watch from the same subscription as my parents despite not living at home, let alone just in another room.
This is a bit old but can’t imagine it’s changed massively (Apple TV still trails behind competitors by a wide margin | iMore) - there are tons more xboxes in the world. So I can’t see putting the app on Apple TV having any appreciable difference if they don’t think sky on Xbox is an issue.
And they’ve loosened their multiroom extortion in the past few years anyway, going from the per room fee to a flat ‘multiscreen’ monthly fee which covers any number of additional boxes.
I guess maybe something in the argument that the whole purpose of Apple TV is to watch TV etc, but everyone I know with an Xbox uses it for their Netflix/Prime/etc so if they have sky, they’d know to use it for that too surely. And fact remains that Apple TV is not a large part of the streaming box market compared to nearly everything else.
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I get what you’re saying completely, but Apple TV’s are a lot cheaper and smaller than Xbox’s, especially the price you can buy them for 2nd hand. If the Sky app was on Apple TV, I know i’d immediately cancel my multiroom subscription, we want Sky Mini boxes in 2 more rooms but I won’t do it currently because I don’t want to pay another £100 for equipment on top of the monthly subscription. I would immediately buy enough Apple TV’s.
We’ve had multiroom for 3 years, and it’s something we’ll continue to have, thats a fair chunk of our bill they instantly lose should they open the Sky app to more devices. I don’t use it on my Xbox because I hate using my controller to watch stuff, the media remotes i’ve tried are rubbish, and unless I appear offline(which i always forget that i’ve done) then I just get countless game and party invites.
I’d love to be wrong but I just can’t see it.
Edit: Also worth noting that Germany have had a Sky Q app for Apple TV for years and we’ve still not got one
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Very fair point! I suppose I was thinking more in terms of current reach than potential, but you’re right, definitely need to think about what people would do given the possibility.
This is quite interesting though. Wonder what the conditions are that led to that there but not here.
I might be wrong but i think I read a while ago that Sky there is all internet based, so they don’t need the Satellite dishes like we do, in the same articles it said about Sky planning similar services for the UK in the future but it was a log way off
From memory, SKY (UK) was intending to switch to internet feeds for Q and dumping the dish a few years ago, but it all went quiet. One major issue is bandwidth for receiving UHD and allowing multi-channel recordings - the dish doesn’t have such limitations. An external format converter box (broadband-to-coax-input) would likely be needed too, to work with current ‘dish input’ Q boxes.
Maybe a new Q box would be released for broadband-only inputs? I think Italy have these?
I have ‘Q’ - 2TB and 2 mini’s - and there’s still nothing to match it.
EDIT: Found what I read:
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Agreed! Although if we did get a Sky app for Apple TV I could see me using that instead of the mini’s, At least in the rooms we haven’t invested in a Mini in yet just to see how we get on.
I’m a great lover of Sky Q, Virgin and IPTV don’t even come close the only plus to people’s FireStick IPTV’s is cost
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I’d really like to finally see the iPad support multi user. Feels like a good potential use of that 2TB of storage which they’re now offering people.
iPad multi user would be great. Surely like mac it would mainly be personal files and photos/ music different (so less space constraint).
With apps accessible to everyone? This would start to get it more towards a laptop replacement.
Can’t see it happening. It would result in less devices sold overall.
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You stole my line! 
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