The Great Permacrisis đŸ˜±

I see this as a positive. Politicians have become entirely reactionary - largely just to whatever the daily mail is complaining about today.

Yes, every time anything positive is announced there’ll be a small crowd of people saying ‘but what about small boats!!!’ but those people will never be happy (in life as well as on Twitter). The rest of the country needs a vision for what the future looks like that we can move towards.

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@mikez @fillip2k can you define this terminology please? Are you suggesting anyone for ‘Brexit’ is “far right”? It’s important to understand an author’s intention when using descriptive terms due to the dilution of meaning as a consequence of misapplication of words and meaning.

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Not sure if you’ve seen the people with balaclavas on attacking lifeboat volunteers but it isn’t exactly uncommon knowledge that the far right is on the rise.

The context of those posts, and the question, related to Brexit? Your interjection of:

Appears a little displaced? I’m not sure of the relevance?

I’m being extremely generous here and assuming you genuinely misunderstood rather than you are are trying to set up a large and utterly pointless straw man.


the relevance is that the posts both mentioned the rise of the far right. They never linked ‘brexit voter’ to ‘far right’, they were analysing the root causes of the rise that is plain to see is happening.

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Despite what some people want to believe about the UK economy, it isn’t doing too terribly either

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Wait you mean we aren’t ‘bankrupt’ :laughing:


Reeves didn’t steal everyone’s money. I am shocked.

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There’s no need for this, really, is there?

This is what I was clarifying. To the authors using the terminology. You were not one of them. Thank you for your interpretation, though.

Exactly - and I was careful not to link Brexit and Far Right. In fact, I mentioned EU legislation and proposed legislation that I was uncomfortable with.

My understanding was that Liz Truss inadvertently created a black hole, into which the UK’s £1.2 trn income has been sucked into ever since

Unfortunately, not careful enough:

Hence the clarification request.

Glad that’s now been clarified. With thanks.

It does seem that far right parties are spreading through much of the EU unfortunately

“Far right parties” or “right parties”? There used to be some objective basis for this but the term “far right” appears to have lost most of its meaning - particularly politically speaking - with a lot of this now being subjective and one of many mud-slinging pejoratives.

There has been a rise in both right-wing and far-right parties.

And left-wing and “far-left”?

I might just chose to ignore this line of questioning. You seem to be acting in bad faith

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It’s a genuine question? No ill-intent? Very keen to understand given the statements made.

You’re clearly a reasonably intelligent person so I’m happy for you to put whatever interpretation on it that you choose.

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Just Google it or use AI.