What with WhatsApp’s changes to their T&Cs does anyone use Telegram & if yes is it any good & are there any drawbacks? Any feedback is welcomed.
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The actual functionality of Telegram looks great, and works reliably and consistently across devices and browsers, but I only knew one person who used it and they deleted their account so I did too
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Most of my friends and colleagues still use WhatsApp and they are the kind of people who don’t care about terms and conditions being changed 
so I am stuck with WhatsApp.
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Same thing here. I’m in a WhatsApp group with a couple hundred people. There’s no way api can get them all to move to something else.
The drawback is that it’s not widespread enough.
I seriously doubt either this or Signal will gain traction. The average user isn’t actually bothered about T&C’s on apps in the 1st place.
If they were they wouldn’t be on Facebook, Insta, Google etc etc
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Had a few people who i didnt think would be bothered move over to signal recently.
Means ive been able to move a few group chats over, not great but its a start 
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With people now using either WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram we need a new app to combine them all into one.
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I don’t think WhatsApp numbers are going to be materially affected because ultimately unless everyone moves no one will move.
I tried out Signal over the weekend and it’s actually quite nice. The privacy and security aspects are solid but the convenience factor just isn’t there. That security comes at the cost of all your messages being stored on device. When we’re talking about years of data this just isn’t viable for a majority of people.
Telegram’s cloud backup is probably its single best feature. It works everywhere with great apps on many platforms. Apple has only just got iMessage on the Mac up to feature parity with iOS. There’s no way I see them supporting other platofrms as first class citizens.
I’ve had one person ask me about Signal in the last week but everyon else is blissfully unaware. When the new T&Cs screen pops up on their phone I’d go long on them just clicking accept and moving on with life.
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I’ve had this conversation with @N26throwaway elsewhere.
It would probably help in the US. I’m doubtful it would make a difference here and there’s zero chance anyone would care in India / China / Japan / Korea…
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Just had a nostalgia moment. I remember it being released, and now I feel old. 
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I’m guessing this is technically impossible given the shit to proprietary standards and desire for stronger security?
I still remember my ICQ number.
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I second this, Telegram has its perks but signal fully encrypts any and all metadata, whereas Telegram doesn’t, it also copies your address book to their servers.
Also, the fact that by default Telegram backs up your chats to the servers means they have full access to your messages, unless you explicitly use the secret chat feature, with Signal its end to end from the get go.
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I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that for most people this is a feature and not a bug.
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Which? The fact Telegram doesn’t encrypt by default?
It’s all based on who you know. Personally not a single person on my contact list uses whatsapp but I’m a member of a couple of telegram groups. I’ve got signal but never come across anyone that used it.
It’s like persuading people to use jitsi or google meet instead of zoom… people use what they use, and they aren’t likely to change quickly.
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I thought you had made that up. 
Anyone use zimpop?
and that’s the main issue and i think facebook know that, people are too comfortable giving up so much of their privacy for what is “easiest” for them.
Took me no more than 5 minutes to download and get going on Signal - created the group chats on signal, copied the share link into the relevant Whatsapp group chat and said if people join Signal, to use that link to join the chat on that service instead.
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People don’t change banks / utilities when it can literally save / make the money hundreds of pounds.
Why change an app that works fine?!
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