Smart thermostats - any recommendations?

FYI If you are with Octopus, you can email them asking for a Tado Store discount code (50% off).

tado@octopus.energy

Just need to ask for a code and include your Octopus account number in the email. It’s a unique code they will generate for you and it can be used twice.

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That’s good to know. However, based on the following page unfortunately doesn’t seem to include Tado X products: Works with Octopus | Octopus Energy

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Yes - V3 only by the looks of it.

I didn’t actually know the X range existed until your post. Interesting. I wonder how it differs to V3 kit.

Future proofing the tech from what I can see. Matter / thread based so don’t need their hub. Can’t figure out lots of other differences to be honest (would be good to know)

This is interesting. HomePod do the temperature so if I could be bothered I could get it controlled by that on not the tado ecosystem (trigger Siri to control it based on HomePod temperature reporting or something similar) but not sure I can currently!

Yes main difference is change in networking, with Tado X being thread-based. Should overcome a couple of limitations inherent with V3 system:

  1. All devices in V3 system need to connect directly to a single bridge. Can be problematic in even slightly large homes. Mesh-based nature of Thread should overcome this.
  2. V3 system needs cloud connectivity. I think the thread-based X system has some degree of offline capability.

Here’s a small overview: https://mightygadget.co.uk/tado-x-review-vs-tado-v3/

Problem solved :white_check_mark:

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Looks good.

Are you one of those people who like to fill every empty space on their walls? :slightly_smiling_face:

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Only on this wall, we have a load of different shelves and prints up on that wall. All black shelves/black frames so the black Tado blends in quite nicely.

RIP to whoever buys this place off us though. The plasterboard is going to look like cheese.

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3M Claws are best for hanging, in my experience. You just press them into the plasterboard with your fingers (no hammering). Up to 7kg.

Upon removal (you just pull them out by hand), they leave behind the tiniest puncture holes (approx 2mm) that are very easily filled.

We use them everywhere around the house. They are a tad expensive but worth it.

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I never knew they offered discounts on all those things!

Bit of filler and you’ll never know. 2 minute job

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They don’t seem to advertise it much. I would guess Octopus are probably contributing to the cost. I can’t see any firm offering a 50% discount without some kind of payment involved, especially for hardware where the margin isn’t going to be that extreme.

It’s a good deal though. Shame you have to e-mail them but still worth doing.

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I would definitely care more if this was a rental. But yeah any holes I need to fill, I’ve got caulk and left-over paint to deal with it so all good.

Just to close the loop on this, here’s the data from Friday. You can very clearly see the point where the thermostat was installed.

Turns out the room loses a tiny amount of heat throughout the day, even when the outside temperature is near freezing, so now my heating has gone from running every few hours to not running at all! This might save me a lot more money than I thought!

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Previously the temperature in the room was being measured by the TRV. The TRV is next to the radiator, so it’s really bad at measuring the temperature of the room.

As a result the system thought the room needed constant boosts of heating to maintain temperature. I believe there’s some level of algorithmic thinking that goes into determining the temperature of the room.

Moving the point the temperature is measured away from the heat source has solved this, the system has realised it doesn’t need constant boosts to maintain the target temperature of 20°c

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Exactly that!

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Hoping I’ve missed something and someone has a tip/trick…

I use Tado, have schedules set up on a very basic level. But on a day like today, we’ve been out since 10am so I turned it down, but I want it warm for 6pm, without altering the schedule.

Because I either end up setting a “put the heating on” reminder at 5pm, or forgetting. I can only seem to warm the place up now

Do you pay for the subscription? If so, the geofencing/auto-assist will do what you need.

That said, because there’s an API your heating settings can be controlled externally. I don’t have the subscription so I use Home Assistant to switch Tado between home and away modes depending on our locations. I believe you should be able to do the same via HomeKit too.

Also, the subscription is fairly cheap so I used to subscribe during the winter months and cancel in spring.

Tado:

Just looked how stupidly simple it is to replace the old style here.

So I could swap it all out and then put it all back when I leave the rental?

No, don’t pay.

I’ll have a look, but I’m not sure the location part would work for me

Carlo - yes, very easy.

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