Perhaps but thatās a bit of a strawman argument, it affects so many more people than those who are just travelling on their holidays.
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I use way more data on holiday, streaming, uploading photos, downloading maps etc. But I never use anything like 20GB.
I think itās reasonable that people who use huge amounts pay more, much like its reasonable people who use their monzo cards in ATMs loads abroad.
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Itās not naĆÆve at all. It is going up and when it goes up, the limits will move too, theyāll have to. Before you say they wonāt, look at the difference to data now compared to 5 years ago.
I donāt sit around the pool all day either, but maps/messages/a few streams isnāt going to get you to 20GB in a fortnight.
In our most recent site poll, 78% of MSE users told us they use 3GB of data or less each month overall.
The majority of people wonāt be charged, wonāt notice and wonāt pay anything. If youāre going to use 30GB while on holiday, then you should probably pay!
I agree, but my first point that you both jumped on was about being on holiday.
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Only because the holiday element is irrelevant, and besides that I donāt think itās fair for one person to judge the needs of another on holiday to be excessive with such a blanket statement.
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EE charges per day for new contracts rememberā¦
Other networks will follow suit when they can do it when new phones come out, this is just them tweaking stuff they can tweak in existing contracts.
You will be paying more soon enough for those bits of use. The only way they may consider not doing it is if there is an outcry.
I also love the fact that even though I pay more for my contract to get data I should pay even more because network need the profits because now they can charge me even more. I should be grateful for these extra charges because other people wont have to pay them like they didnt before with their lower data contractsā¦ really?!?
Wait lets just get everyone to go back to pay as you go then everyone pays for what they use and everyone loses out.
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Iād be more inclined to agree with this if the network providers were as transparent about the costs to them as monzo are.
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I think those that use above and beyond fair use should pay more, yes.
You seem to be taking this incredibly personally. If it was 1GB then Iād be in 100% agreement, but I still think 20GB is a lot of data to use while on holiday.
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I have still never seen anything to suggest that someone using 20 GB in a month costs them anything more than 1 GB in a month barring a small increase in electricity
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We do, we pay more for the contracts in the first place. Before we got double ripped off before the EU brought in the rules to level the charges. Remember mobile networks didnt go broke in the last 3 years we had these rules, they just couldnt milk the charges, contracts still got cheaper. Now they can double charge and add extra profits.
Yes you think its a lot, 20GB is a fair bit of data but what is happening now is the start, three just decided nah 12gb for now, ee did worse and decided you will pay Ā£2 per day to get data, 14 days thats Ā£28 of extra charge we didnt have to pay and networks still made a profit.
Networks will slip in extra charges when new phones come out, thats how it works. Right now they can only tweak fair usage and EE can only charge that on new contracts but they all will rip us off like they used too as soon as they can.
Even if I didnt use a lot of data I would find this change unfair and a rip off because even if it didnt affect me it will affect others and its so blatant.
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In my personal opinion we could just leave this topic there as that just totally nails the point
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Yeah and they always start off by making it seem so āreasonableā to do it but then they double down when they get away with it and it spirals, its why the EU brought in the rules in the first place, EVERYONE was getting ripped off even if you used little data. Remember it used to be cheaper to make a call to the UK when abroad than receiving a call because of the crazy billing.
I dont know why people dont remember how bad things were before.
Boris chose not to keep the agreement, the only people it benefited were shareholders of mobile networks, it was not a āfor the people, level upā arrangement he made.
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Iāll just go back to turning off data if/when abroad I guess. It worked in the āpast timesā so no reason it wonāt work now. (Not with EE anyway but this will spread.)
In my case, I never paid so havenāt a clue how expensive it was.
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I am getting terrible flash backs to pouring money into Giff Gaff to keep my data going during the General Election in 2015 when I was out and about in Germany. Must have done a dozen top ups that night. The result did nothing to add to my feelings on the matter
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Itāll be back to the days where it prob be cheaper to buy a SIM from the country you land in, for data use at least.
You donāt even have to look at ābeforeā to see how bad it can get. Hereās an example from 2017. Whilst Moldova is in Europe, itās outside of the EU, meaning the charges are eyewatering.
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Not that I ever make phone calls now from my mobile (unless I can totally not avoid it), but the very fact that calls and SMS messages are pretty much unlimited within the UK under any sort of data deal is not exactly suggestive of them being that expensive to provideā¦
Just checked to be sure and my 20 GB plan from BT has unlimited calls and SMS messages included, which must really represent a great charity on their part if it costs them that much
I think the situation with what phone providers charge each other at a B2B level is probably a lot more complex than āĀ£2 a minuteā etc.
anyway I donāt really see the point in them being any more transparent about it, all we need is transparency on what the prices for us are and we can choose the provider that works for us.
My domestic useage exceeds 1TB per month on Three.
Iām screwed if I travel or they banned teathering. (I donāt have internet at home so teather my phone)
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Iām surprised that doesnāt go against fair usage if itās regular!
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They donāt have one, why would I use 2down 330k up ADSL over 4G at 75down 35up
http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBISAPI.DLL?Command=New,Kb=Mobile,Ts=Mobile,T=Article,Case=obj(3833)
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