Foreign roaming is never guaranteed to be fair. It connects to a network not covered here in the resort unless outside or certain places.
Constant 4G lebara 120+.
Ping poor on both but that’s expected as it routes to the UK first.
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Last time I was romaing, I was in Germany.
While the plane was taxiing to the terminal, I got a text from Vodafone (personal) saying “Oh, your in Germany, that’s in our roaming zone, so you have unlimited calls and texts, and 25G of data. Enjoy your stay”.
Three DAYS later I got a text from O2 (work, same phone, dual sim) saying “Oh, your in Germany. You’ve got 500M of data for 24 hours free, after that each day will be charged at our standard off-tarrif rates”.
3 days after I got there… so when did my free data start and run out? Thanks O2, I’ll never use you for a personal phone.
My number transferred over to Three this morning.
Good riddance O2. Even your ridiculously good Volt benefits can’t cover up the 
of your comically bad reception.
And I say this as someone who spends 95% of my life at home on WiFi!
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You should have complained each time the service wasn’t great or as promised by the provider. I was with Vodafone and they were always giving me at least 50% off my monthly bill but it came to a point where it was just not acceptable so I complained to the resolution team and demanded my account to be closed and they foot the early termination fees. I told them If they didn’t then I simply wouldn’t pay the bill as the service I got was shocking. They did see my point and did try resolve it by lowering my bill and increasing data etc but I wanted to leave as enough was enough. I found a better deal with o2 and get constant 5G data which is great! If anyone isn’t happy then I do strongly advice complaining on a regular basis as it backs up evidence of a provider not delivering on service
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Its worth trying to lock your o2 sim onto vodafone, I have seen quite a few cases where they have multiple network deals and the sim selects the wrong one.
When I was in Ireland a couple of weeks ago my other half was on Eire and I was on Three (both EE) and Eire was faster and 5g so I switched my phone onto it.
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It doesn’t work for some reason.
I’ll try again if this runs out of data.
Advise to remove a psa to customers with zero detail?
They gave more to ispreview techcrunch in a statement.
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what info have they removed in the new statement?
As far as I remember it’s practically the same and very vague on the details, strange that they removed it.
They were even petty enough to stop it from getting idexed
On the run-up to the Holidays, RCS is coming, RCS is coming…
Move over iMessage
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Fundamental point missed - Apple still uses standard text messaging to communicate with non-apple devices. So by logical definition: Apple is the old person.
Change needed. That iPager video, while no doubt upsetting the iSheeple, is INSANELY well crafted. A masterclass in touche marketing.
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You can’t argue with a random 
But just to respond to the previous non- questions:
ELI5 - I’d be re-writing established posts to do that. So, to save time, there’s a post below.
TLDR - RCS will become the defacto baked-in carrier/mobileOS messaging infrastructure regardless of friction. There are too many advantages compared to the historical alternatives to not do it, and too many disadvantages with current cross-platform comms to ignore it.
Yes, there are (online) independent apps which people may - quite rightly - choose to use, but it’s the fundamental carrier (3G/4G/5G/LTE/etc.) support for messaging at focus here.
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I mean yeah if RCS had been out 10-15 years ago it would have been relevant but now…
If google had not tried hangouts and a raft of other messaging apps over the years they might have got traction with RCS but google is mess with comms apps.
Googles biggest mistake was not buying whatsapp when it had the chance.
Other than texting Android people who refuse signal/whatsapp/messenger etc leaving them with a green bubble I struggle to see why anyone average on iPhone would care, its a problem for android users but not for iphone users.
The only people I ever see pleeping about iPhone not having RCS are android users. Hell the first few goes didnt even have end to end encryption, it was a bit of a joke service.
I do know about the benefits of RCS but they are few and far between over apps and carriers arent exactly known for not being scumbos who find ways to tap charges on services.
I just want the mobile operator to be as close to a dumb data pipe as possible.
Oh I notice to use the new o2 system powered by google you have to agree to google terms… thats a bit crap… I wonder whats in those terms.
I still think its nuts this new service replacing the same service you had before will mean you can message anyone for 5 days… and people wonder why iphone users arent dying for RCS with carrier dependency…
EDIT: Oh if you have a problem with data it sends unsecured via SMS or worse MMS with a photo costing crazy amounts (65p on o2)… and that’s a feature people would want…
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I believe so but I dont know what happens for people who dont user the google messages app on android.
The Google messages app is not open source and I remember seeing a while ago google limited api access.
It also appears the terms you have to agree to are the wholistic google privacy and terms that cover ALL their services and allow potentially a silly amount although I have not dug far into the RCS carve outs in the general terms if they exist.
Since google seems to run RCS (with their terms…) I dont know why they dont just make an iPhone app if its that good.
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All good counter-arguments, but it’s coming regardless. The dominos are falling.
Sorry to disappoint anyone who is in Camp Never-Happen.
Isn’t RCS cross platform iOS to android and reverse?
Meaning those who do rely on sms style messaging can have a WhatsApp/imessage style experience to whoever they send sms to? Data provided.
I may be confused with something else though.
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Yes, that’s pretty much the entire point.
For those of us on one of the platforms who have friends who use the other platform it would be nice if the stock messaging system, then one that you could 100% rely on everyone having, would actually support rich content and functionality.
WhatsApp’s great, until you get someone who doesn’t want anything to do with Meta. Most of the others are so niche that in any random group of more than 2 people, at least one of them won’t have Telegraph / Signal / <insert app here>, so you either have the uphill struggle to convince them to install it, or you fall back to SMS, which … yeah, we all know just how great that is.
If Apple hadn’t kept the iMessage protocol locked down and proprietary, it would be the defacto standard by now, and RCS would never have had a chance, but that’s not the way Apple works, so here we are, with a new standard that everyone else can adopt, and, frankly, if Apple don’t join in, then in a few years their users might be the ones being told “oh, doesn’t your phone support that?”
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Coincidentally I just read a post on Reddit asking why everyone in the UK used WhatsApp/iMessage here because everyone in the US uses text.
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I’m assuming that “text” includes iMessage, though, because people I know in the US use it all the time.
In the UK, I still get people asking me why some of their texts are green and others blue.
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Maybe.
The post title is “do you use text or another third party app like WhatsApp?”
It only struck me as a bit of a coincidence that I read a post saying everyone texts then one that said no one texts.
The real answer is some do, some don’t, depending on their mobile (cell) plan. As I understand it (could be wrong) data is relatively expensive in the US.
In the US, iPhones are significantly more common than non-iPhones, so most people are on iMessage, and don’t actually realise that it’s Apple-only, and doesn’t work with Android. That’s what causes the mild confusion with why some people are blue and some are green, and why in the US, people are often puzzled why anyone would bother with WhatsApp when texting (iMessage) does it all.
Everywhere else in the world, Android phones are in the majority, so people default to WhatsApp (or similar), since it actually offers a featureset worth using, unlike literal SMS messaging. It also has the huge advantage that it’s cross-platform, so once you convince an Apple user to switch to it, they can then use it to talk to anyone.
Once RCS becomes common as the default messaging platform for Android, there will be far less incentive for Android users to install WhatsApp, since their messaging app will offer all the features they need, just like Apple users currently have with iMessage.
At that point, things will get interesting…
But since Apple won’t allow anyone else to access iMessage, and Google are actively encouraging everyone else to adopt RCS, unless one of the companies changes their tactics there can untimately only be one outcome.