iOS 15

There are some bugs in IOS 15, some affect the App Store where it fails to load the account page.

I hope people who are on the beta are reporting bugs into Apple.

@JayJayWM If it doesn’t install on the iPad, then log it via the developer portal that you have access to and they will if its a critical bug investigate.

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I’m also on the beta, I’ve noticed FaceTime links don’t work yet and a few other little bits are glitching here and there.

I’m sure apple will sort these out by the final version though. I’m loving it so far

I prefer the maps icon for sure - never liked that US highway/interstate sign or whatever it was.

Am on second beta on my iPad now too.

Hopefully only a couple of weeks until PB now and I’ll get my phone updated too :crossed_fingers:

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This isn’t a judgement on you (I’ve done my fair share of questionable tech activity) but I always find it interesting how many people happily use services from subsidiary companies whilst disliking the parent.

The canonical example is usually Instagram and Facebook.

What do you mean by worst offender?

I’m very guilty of this myself. I think as @ndrw says, it’s often a lack of viable competitor.

I have nearly removed Google from my life but literally can’t stop using YouTube for various trailers/info videos etc etc.

Another personal example: I’m still struggling to decouple events from Facebook. A number of friends just make an enormous message group nowadays (which is still WhatsApp anyway), but I really like to have some sense of who’s actually coming and for a big event, there’s a massive difference in visibility between X attending and who actually sends a real reply in a group.

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Fair enough. I do find myself looking for Google alternatives these days, although I’m still heavily in their ecosystem.

I’m not so keen on some of their practices, but ultimately I give them a pass because of the value I get from their “free” services.

YouTube ads did start to become ridiculous a while back, which is when I plumped for my Indian Premium workaround.

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I am finding reachability doesn’t work in safari. It might be because the address bar is now on the bottom, but I feel there are some websites where it can be useful. Been trying a bit and just can’t get it to work!

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Maybe just a new design concept has been developed? Or maybe the icon is not finalized, which, among other things, is strange for Apple.

Playing around with the beta and because of the way that Safari now puts the search bar at the bottom, if you access Gmail through it you can’t access the controls at the bottom of the screen to delete/archive etc :confounded:

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If you tap the home indicator to minimise the address bar, does it then cover up the controls or do they push up?

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It covers it up:

Unless Gmail change it, it’s impossible to do this on iOS 15. You can swipe on individual emails but nothing in bulk.

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Urgh, that’s grim. Hopefully Apple reconsider a bunch of these changes. They can’t rely on web developers to have to fanny about with workarounds - I’m having flashbacks to Internet Explorer 6.

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It’s tricky right. Because we can’t exactly blame Google since 99.999999% of browsers don’t have anything at the bottom there.

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Simple.

Can you tell apple? Cheeeers.

Also I’m trying to get on board with the changes in Safari but I just can’t see any issue with the old ways so :man_shrugging:t2:

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I’ll do this but is it a bug? It’s more an issue for Google; rather than a bug necessarily.

Whilst they cant rely on developers to cater for it, they do make it incredibly easy for developers to cater for it. In theory it’s as simple as adding env(safe-area-inset-bottom) into their css where they anchor the element to the bottom, so for example if they have it as ‘bottom: 0’, all they need to do is make it bottom: calc(0 + env(safe-area-inset-bottom)).

I haven’t tested this in theory with gmail as I don’t use it but given how many people do I’d fully expect Google to resolve it soon, i’d say the same for any website or web app ran by a decent size company.

People forget that their was a similar issue with the notch when it was first released and the solution for developers is basically the same.

Given the steps they’ve taken to inform developers on how to resolve issues, it’s definitely not a bug

Edit, heres a quick example, if you open it in safari, you’ll see the left button hides behind the bar whereas the right moves above it. Literally all I did for the second button was change
bottom: 0px to bottom: calc(0px + env(safe-area-inset-bottom))

This is interesting, there’s a number of factors that I’d have thought would make this pretty impossible to get right, you may make it perfect for you or your testers but not the greater audience. If I just look between me and my fiancee, our reachable zones are quite different, and we’re both right handed, if you look at catering to left handed people as well then it would be different again. I’d be interested to know how you thought to sole those sorts of issues

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I wasn’t sure how i’d feel about the safari changes, I haven’t used safari in a long time but have now moved back to it after trialing it and am really liking it so far.

I think the issue for most os just the fact it’s different, but once you get past the muscle memory issues and get use to it, the reachability aspects of it are really great. I really like swiping left and right on the bar to go between tabs quickly too

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