BOJO as pm

300k from a budget of 5 billion a year.

Pocket change.

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We all have obstacles. I had many and used them to my advantage. I promised that I would break free from that lifestyle and promised that my kids would not live like that.

That is where I think we as a society could make a much bigger difference. Trying to identify those who are falling through the gap at a young age and changing the mindset and offering targeted support (which usually isnt financial).

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with half of it being bat sh*t crazy

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I went to a rough school and left with no qualifications at GCSE I never went to uni and had a criminal record. I have a good job that comfortably supports a family of 6. I own 2 houses drive a nice family car and my life prospects are good with increase in earnings on a regular basis. And a good pension. It’s nothing to do with the hand your dealt it’s what you choose to do with it that counts.

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Whilst the Gender Pay Gap is valid data and comes to some correct conclusions - it is incorrect to say that women are paid less than men for the same work (as that isn’t directly what the data says - and it is illegal).

What it does say (as far as I understand it) is that over the course of the whole of a mans working life they will earn more than a woman. This is due to decisions made by men and women and not directly linked to them being a man or a woman (albeit some decisions like having a baby are only physically able to be made by women). This is still something that could and should be combated.

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Didnt one of the scandanavian countries try this and they had to scrap it because it didn’t work? Something makes me think they did but I could be wrong. I often am :slight_smile:

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Disclaimer: I’m not massively into politics but follow it casually.

Boris Johnson is a fumbling baffoon at best. He is interesting to watch as a person but I don’t think he’ll anything brilliant. He feels like the next default choice and the Conservative Party aren’t challenging their own views.

I seem him and Nigel Farrage in the same boat, charismatic, very interesting to watch as individuals and they make me think about my views. but I never end up agreeing with their views and find them very limited. I dislike them as politicians.

The more I hear about Rory Stewart the more I like him tbh, he’s lived an interesting, varied life and I think he’ll bring something new to the Conservative table we’re unfortunately sitting at.

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Careful, my post got flagged when I said that. :laughing: Hopefully I won’t get flagged for saying I agree with you :100:.

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Big pockets. The real lesson from the water cannon debacle is that Johnson is obstinate to the point stubbornness.

He was told by the Home Secretary (T May) that they would be unlawful without a licence and that no licence would be forthcoming. He went ahead and bought them anyway.

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Whover becomes PM, BREXIT has to be delivered, otherwise the political crisis will be worsened.

Which ever way you voted the result has to be implemented.

Even if that means closing parliament to do it.
Il guarantee it ever Boris does get elected and gets us out. In the next election Tories will get a landslide victory…

I voted leave and angry it hasn’t been implemented. Leave should mean leave not half way. Leave

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I’m not sure. I personally think we’d be better off focusing on improving access to education. Computer automation will take a huge number of low-skilled jobs over the next couple of decades, and yet we make people get into debt to go to University.

As I said overall I agree with what you’re saying but unfortunately it is all steeped in subjectivity. Just because someone works hard does not mean they will do well in life (the chances of doing so are increased but it is not a foregone conclusion).

I think it is more about equity and not equality people should be able to have the same opportunities regardless of background (an all en-compassing word) but it is factual to say that some of these opportunities are either blocked or significantly more difficulty to obtain for those lower down the classes.

That is great for you, however someone dealt with the exact same hand (say for arguments sake 18 in blackjack) could be beaten by two picture cards. Whilst I agree it is about how you manoeuvre yourself - just because you’ve worked hard doesn’t mean you’ll get everything in life.

In my chosen career path, no amount of hard work would allow me to get my job if I had a criminal record for example - life is very very subjective that is all I’m trying to put across.

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Well said that man it was a majority vote so has to be carried out

Do you mean further education? I think one of the best things in recent years has been apprenticeships.

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You can do anything you like regardless of background. It is the basis of our society that no mate who you are you have access to the same education as the next man you just need to apply yourself to it. And if education fails as it did for me then we have the apprentiship option and many other avenues you can Perdue as I did. We all have tough times but you learn to deal with it and overcome it.

And there is the issue. Hardly any of those leading the campaign for Brexit before the referendum said that. We could stay in the customs union, they said. We could stay in the single market, they said. Now, the only Brexit is total Brexit. And let’s not forget Farage suggesting that the if it was a close call to remain, there should be a re-run.

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Given all that’s been uncovered about Brexit since the vote, and the amount of time that’s passed, I think there are good arguments for a “Final say” vote. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I can save time here. You are right more of the EU’s lies have been exposed further increasing the Leave vote. Thanks for the offer of another opportunity to reject anti-democracy but I’d rather not put the country through that again.

You’re not looking at what I am saying though - whilst generally I agree with you - it isn’t that black and white.

I really disagree with this - you might be able to (as in you aren’t automatically unable to do something) but the chances you will be able to do it are directly related to your background.

That isn’t true - if you look at where “good” “successful” schools are located, you’ll find a large disparity between the North and South - and that is just talking about comprehensive schools.

If your parents are fortunate to be affluent, they can send you to a fee-paying school where the statistics that you will do better than a comprehensive is off the charts.

Great, but what after all that hard work at an apprenticeship - you go bankrupt as a sole trader because you didn’t have enough clients? It doesn’t matter how hard you work or how good you are, if you aren’t getting people to call you for a job, you won’t do well.

But some people can’t overcome it - as I said above, if I had a criminal record, I wouldn’t be able to get the job I want - that isn’t down to how hard I work.

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The argument that having a vote is undemocratic seems like an oxymoron. If you’re sure the majority would still want to leave, what have you got against a final say? I hope I’m not misunderstanding you.