Why does Monzo not like people re-joining?

I’d like to see the facts of this in comparison to all other banks and where on the list each stands.

I’d have assumed Barclays was the worst, though NatWest has a fb page full of blocked/closed account complainers on there.

Starling has a very low offering, they only have overdrafts, and their credit “book” is extremely low as far as I know.

Their gov loan book doesn’t really count for anything, it wasn’t their money and had taken it up to reach profit (personal opinion), and it worked.

Their mortgage book is a niche market, not general public so I also exclude that.

By which you mean?

Aren’t overdrafts, loans and possibly buy now pay later credit a form of mainstream?

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Basically you snooze you lose. I wouldn’t bother trying to understand the why’s about it, move on, plenty more fish in the sea.

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A bunch of people got a please update your details email from monzo this morning, asking employment status, job title and Wages.

In short, it’s part of every banks regulatory obligations to obtain this.

Many reasons why. Don’t understand why people are against telling their bank, where they put their money, where it came from.

But maybe that’s just me :sweat_smile:

To add, I recall starling freezing accounts because people weren’t providing it :melting_face:

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I assume it’s to mostly detect illegal activity aswell as KYC.

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It said something like that on the email, but I was adding to the hypothesis that monzo had got stricter recently because I’d never seen that email before I think.

All banks are required to keep records of their customers for a certain period, I think it’s seven years. Even if you close an account, they still have to keep the records until this period expires. It’s not like closing J Random Onlineplace account where they will wipe all your records straight away.

It’s unlikely Monzo will ever give a straight answer (because explaining how their systems work to this level will give bad actors the knowledge they need to game the systems), but I think this is probably the main reason you can’t re-open your account.

Whether it’s closing an account in and of itself that sinks one’s chances, or whether closing an account results in a big negative being added to the risk scoring that requires much higher scoring everywhere else to cross the bar (which would be why same scoring as new was OK, but same scoring with account closure is not), I don’t know. Again, the above applies re: unlikely Monzo can reveal this.

On another level, it must be mentioned that banks are not obliged to take people as customers. If customers are able to say “No, you’re not the bank for me”, it’s really fair enough that banks are allowed to say “No, you’re not the customer for us.”

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OP, how long was the original account open? How much did you deposit? How many transactions did you make before closing?

And did you CASS out?

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It is one month, but it’s a case of “may be” able to reopen after one month, not definitely will be able to reopen

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I was full Monzo for a while around 3 years ago but CASSed away. I had no issues opening a new account this time last year - just asked if my mobile number could be deleted.

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I responded to some yesterday so I’ll drop the list here in a bit :sunglasses:

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I thought this was very clear from the start?

This whole post is about not being able to reopen their account or apply for another one, due to having closed their account previously.

Criteria for an account, as far as I know, still remains the same. We conduct a soft check and pull whatever relevant to make that assessment.

Until Monzo, I never even knew reopening bank accounts was a thing.

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Banks are required to find out where the money our customers hold comes from, and how they intend to use it, as part of what’s called ‘customer due diligence’.

The key regulation we’re referring to here is under sections 3.2.4, 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 of the FCA Handbook, as well as section 28.13 of the Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing and Transfer of Funds Regulations 2017.

Asking about sources of income (like salary, pension or investments) and what that income is (the actual amount of money coming into your account on a regular basis) helps them better understand you and how you’ll use your account. It also helps keep your account safe because it gives us a baseline which we can spot ‘unusual’ activity from.

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I’ve had in app notifications from quite a few providers lately not just monzo asking for employment and wage details

Same - Amex yesterday and Tesco Bank this morning.

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I feel left out. Can’t remember the last time I got asked by any bank, but they do ask this stuff when you sign up so it’s probably for those who have had their accounts longer.

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I went through so much hassle - couldn’t offer me an account so I wrote to the reviews team and they overturned the decision. Was stuck on the verifying screen for a good 3-4 days just for them to write back again and revoke said decision, not offering me an account anymore. No clue why but doesn’t look like you can reopen accounts with Monzo after you leave!

It was open for about 10 days, but it was never used - no deposits at all, but I had ordered a physical card in expectation that it would become my main account. I just decided I preferred Starling so I closed the Monzo account in-app.

Easier said than done for me. Many lifetimes ago I had some problems with gambling which, thankfully, I managed to get past but I learnt to identify certain triggers and move away from them and in the case of Revolut, it’s access to Crypto. I’ve already gone down that rabbit hole one too many times so it’s something I need to get away from.

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You definitely can. But not everyone can.

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