You are probably right there. And I also assume that a large amount of prepaid terms was more or less dictated/required by their processor, hence the more detailed terms for the prepaid.
However (as I have said before) while I applaud the desire to keep terms short and readable, the current account terms seem utterly deficient. E.g. the fact that they don’t even include a mention of residency requirements, or the need of customers to tell them if their “residency for tax purposes” changes, not only opens them up for litigation, but for criminal prosecution for aiding tax evasion.
Just to be clear: I’m not saying such action is inevitable, or even that it would be successful if it happened. But it’s a risk that can easily be drastically reduced by including just a sentence in the terms.
That’s a weird tab then, the way I read it it starts off as “Terms & Conditions”, then down to the Prepaid tab you can click (which then shows the same pointers in full), then additional CA details that might not be covered in general T&C. I’m guessing that means these T&Cs apply to both prepaid and CA? I can’t imagine that Monzo would not have covered this for the CA when they have done so for the prepaid. Maybe some renaming/ shuffling around is needed.
I really don’t think so. The CA terms start with this:
These legal terms (English law applies) are between you and Monzo Bank Limited (Monzo/us/we) and you agree to them by using the Monzo app.
You should read this document along with our Data Privacy Notice.
If those were supposed to be supplementary they’d need to start with a phrase indicating this, in the same way in which the terms indicate that the Data Privacy Notice needs to be read “along with” it. The phrasing indicates that this document is a closed document, apart from the Data Privacy Notice
I’m not sure this needs to be in the T’s & C’s, they can inform users of these requirements through the signup flow. To keep the terms as short as possible, you probably want to remove that sort of thing & only show it to people that it’s relevant to.
I’d like to think that as a bank, Monzo are quite good at the legal & compliance stuff
True. It’s not needed. (In fact there is no legal “need” for any terms & conditions, I think), but it would seem prudent to include this to reduce risk exposure.
To be honest, I’d be surprised if a banking product didn’t routinely or randomly or howevertheywantto run checks on my credit file. My view is that is exactly what a credit file is for.
This. Monzo soft pulled my CallCredit twice yesterday.
Both using the gender neutral title Mx (which is what I use when I need to use a title, no idea where they got a title from unless they use Mx for everyone since they don’t record gender) despite no title on my account. One has one of my middle names the other doesn’t.
Interestingly, both format my address differently (both are correct, it’s different in different databases). The one that matches the format my address is on the account is the one without a middle name. It is a Quotation/Preliminary Search. The other is an Administration Review.
I’m guessing they’re trying different combos for something? In any case, no overdraft offer came up following this yet…
The score you see on any of the credit agencies website is a made up, best guess of what your credit profile looks like and is irrelevant in the real world.
Financial institutions that actually lend do not use these scores. They instead download your credit history and have their own algorithm for scoring, entirely separate to the credit agencies.
That’s why I went to the company that this forrum described as the one being looked at by Monzo
To be honest I’m pointing out that Monzo did a search on me
I’m not pointing out the credit reference agency or their practice
For information Starling was also present but they actually stated how much money I had access to as an overdraft ( because they actually offered an overdraft)
I’m waiting back on why my account doesn’t show on my file. My Starling one does, and my other current account, but not Monzo. They seem to think it should, but it doesn’t.