Fairly sure there’s always a sign saying they can be spot checked, but even so, it’s within the companies right to do these checks at the till.
Never seen anyone get arrested, more the opposite where staff just let them go with the stuff if they refuse to stay or give it back, and it’s reported as loss by theft.
They aren’t. A funcitonal police force and tackling this kind of anti-social behaviour so the rates of theft aren’t more than rounding errors are required. The fact we’re trying to patch around that with random bag checks instead of solving the problems around it at the cost of inconvening and embarrassing people in shops is mindboggling to me.
You cannot detain people for no reason, you have to witness the theft or have a reasonable suspicion, which if not good enough (and wrong) could lead to the detainer being the one arrested.
It’s also worth mentioning that while you might agree to searches as T&C of using the store, this is a contractual thing and a security guard cannot search your person without that reasonable suspicion you’re doing something illegal (to detain you for) without consent at the time.
I personally don’t like the idea of random people stopping me to check my things, it feels like my card getting declined during a visa outage. British people look and judge before knowing the circumstances. Thankfully I’ve never been subject to an aggressive security guard, probably because this type of thing relies heavily on profiling to begin with and I thankfully pass on that arbitrary ‘randomness’ test.
I know Sainsbury’s and Tesco are triggered if you scan an item and then put it back.
That will mean a store colleague will have to scan about 8 random items from your cart and then you will be able to proceed to make payment.
The ones I don’t understand are the ones at exit even after paying, sometimes even from a manned till and the alarms just kick off. They either wave you off or someone has another look.
I saw a woman stealing from Sainsbury’s before. I informed the staff who called security on her headset thing. I offered to grab the woman for her but she insisted that they just wait for security. By that time the woman was gone
When I worked in a cash and carry store, admittedly a long time ago now, I was told never to attempt to tackle them, to avoid the risk of being attacked or injured/stabbed.
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I scan items and put them back fairly often in Tesco and it isn’t correlated with check scans at the till.
To me that’s not as shocking, not something I’d be willing to put up with (must put a dampener on team morale always being low-key accused of thievery).
For me staff have always had to come and approve the removal/ take the item
Have you ever left the supposed non-RoboCop states? Due to the high level of policing here, the reality is that you never have any problems. You never have any problems, so your civil liberties are never subject to violation.
I’m sure this doesn’t work for the people who have politicial opinions that don’t align with the government, but for me I just keep my mouth shut and that’s enough. In Britain I can open my mouth for decades and nothing will change anyways. At least here the policy keeps moving and isn’t delayed by 2 years of debates and a government change, followed by a scaleback and redesign of the whatever policy that they were trying to implement, at new cost to save imaginary costs never incurred (or costs incurred by the government having prohibatory regulations that give too much power to NIMBYs and local councillors in the position for what they get out of it).
Not one I expected to have to post in a Starling thread either, but here it is I guess
In other news, has anyone got any updates on Starling and when they plan to delete the horrible card that they have (or at least do anything else with the bank, which has been doing nothing for at least a year or two besides the rebrand).
Their AI features were generally useless last I checked, all I wanted it for was something like “how much did I take out from ATMs in the last year” or “how much did I pay in via the Post Office this last year” and it couldn’t handle either.
Couldn’t even handle actual merchant names iirc
Then they added customising the home screen with AI (colour)… something that should have just been a settings toggle.
These are the current AI features, the transactions tags is new (at least to me). Don’t know how well it works as I haven’t used Starling for much recently.
Ignoring the AI stuff there’s a whole bunch of minor features that have been added in the last few months, all of which are somewhere in this thread (when it’s remained on-topic anyway). Some genuinely useful ones for me that that come to mind:
Easy Saver Spaces
Adding security to Spaces
Improvements to merchant editing
Tags on transactions
And not technically a new feature but Euro accounts can now be applied for again
You mean this downgrade from the initally interest attracting current account with automated offsetting of overdraft to spaces, that also attracted interest?
Are they back to updating merchant details again? I gave up when it was my main account because they never actually acted on it.
I didn’t even know this changed, but I already had a EUR account.