It seems like the answer is yes, but they can’t talk about it yet.
They’re listed on the CSA website too.
Whether older hardware will support it is a question though.
Do you already have ‘dumb’ TRVs on your radiators, because they might just be a straight swap?
I was surprised by how easy and quick they were to install. I was expecting, spanners, draining radiators etc. I definitely wasn’t expecting the existing valve head to pop straight off and Tado to replace it so easily!
Same here! I put off buying them for the first year because I assumed it would require the full valve changing. I did nothing to verify this of courses
But literally a 10 minute job. And most of that was spent faffing with the old TRV
I have dumb TRVs. But Tado TRVs won’t mount onto any inner valve. Have tried and Tado TRV’s won’t mount onto mine, at least they wouldn’t when I tried a couple of years ago.
I really want to get my Tado set back up but my boiler has this weird wireless receiver on it that seems to ignore the normal twisty thermostat, so not sure how to get around it.
I’m not a boiler engineer so don’t quote me on this, but I think you need one of these: Wireless Smart Thermostat
I would turn off the electricity and take the faceplate off the wireless receiver so that you can see how it’s wired in. Use that to see if it matches with the Tado terminals, or use it to do some more Googling to find out what you need to make it work.
I originally got a v3 thermostat connected to my boiler. The good thing about Tado is that you can connect it to the digital low voltage connections of most boilers so rather than just an on/off relay it can ask for a bit of heat/lots of heat (technical term) which does allow condensing boilers to run more efficiently. When I did my research, Nest for example only allowed digital control of boilers via OpenTherm which not many support yet. Tado supports most manufacturers own standards, including my Worcester Bosch.
A couple of years ago I added the Smart TRVs to all radiators bar the towel rails in the bathrooms and toilets. I live in a Victorian semi detached house and the front which is north facing is always colder than the back which is south facing with a well insulated extension. The big benefit here is that you only heat rooms you are using, eg bedrooms first thing in the morning and just before bed. But also that any room can “call for heat”. If the lounge at the front is the only cold room then the boiler will fire up and just heat that room as all the other valves will be closed.
The downside of the TRVs as said is that if they are mounted vertically on the side of the radiator where the hot water enters then their temperature reading is very skewed upon that and not the room temperature. I had to get a wireless temperature sensor for 3 of the rooms where this was the case. You can get deals for all of these things if you are patient, but it’s still £100 a room for a TRV and temperature sensor.
Starting again, I’d definitely consider a DIY install of 3rd party TRVs and temperature sensors eg with SmartThings that I use for controlling my outdoor lights. You could do this for much less hardware cost but I suspect it would be less reliable and definitely less well integrated. I’m lucky in that I’m a long standing customer before they made you pay monthly for all the features so can’t comment on what you miss out on. Of all the Smart tech I have at home though Tado has been the best for just setting up and never thinking about. If you can justify the initial cost I’d recommend it.
I currently have a single Tado thermostat connected to my boiler. Am thinking whether to add to this with Tado TRVs in different rooms, or go in a different direction for zonal control.
Sorry, I’ve not done any research into it. You’d need to select some smart TRVs, temperature sensors and a platform for them to talk to and run the automations that can also interact with Tado for your boiler control.
I also missed out one important feature of Tado… they have software controlled child locks on the TRVs. Vital with two young children!
If you want digital boiler control, you need to buy a European Tado - the one they sell on Amazon, most plumbers merchants etc only has on/off control.
Also, if you have a Worcester/Bosch boiler, you can only have digital control with first party controls - not Tado/Nest etc
interesting - it seems more complicated to do if you have the wireless thermostat
And everything I read suggested that Worcester Bosch didn’t do anything more than on/off with Tado
It’s harder to tell now I have the smart TRVs as each room does it’s own thing and the valves open varying amounts. Before having them though when I moved to the digital control I definitely noticed the radiators would maintain a warm temperature for longer rather than cycling between hot and cold to maintain the temperature.
I have TRVs with HomeKit running on an Rpi. It works fantastically but it is really not user friendly to set up. Plenty of guides online but we are talking of several hours of reading through them and being very frustrated. At least some knowledge of python would really help for making routines / manual controls.
The best thing for me though is I can control the valves based on temperature readings on the other side of the room. Smart valves didn’t work well for me because it’s taking the temperature reading next to the radiator - instead I have a little thermostat over the headboard of my bed for example so the temperature is kept more constant based on that reading.
One of the unexpected benefits of the Tado system so far has been managing the humidity levels in our apartment. Over the past week or so we’ve seen a few WhatsApp group messages from other residents living in our new-build block struggling with damp and mould.
Thanks to Tado we’ve had none of that. Each thermostat and TRV has a built in hygrometer so once I picked up upon the high levels of humidity in our still drying from the construction process home, I was able to make sure the place was properly ventilated. There are lots of bits and pieces that weren’t explained to us by the housebuilder on completion about the ventilation design that I suspect have contributed to the issues others have faced.
I’m glad Tado has been able to save me time (through not having to get the builders in to rectify issues) and money (through not having possessions damaged) even before heating season has started.
I mean I have to say I dont find him very balanced with his views and I really really hate the coverart he uses (but I understand why)
I do know others that think he is great but I would 100% take it with a big pinch of salt and look for other views when he trashes/praises a product.
I am actually surprised he liked Tado, I do have Tado here with our oil burner.
That’s progress, I guess, but unlikely to be much use in the UK.
Only the “new” Nest Thermostat released in 2020 is getting the update. Google still says it is exploring bringing Matter support to the Nest Learning Thermostat and the Nest Thermostat E, which are the only Nest Thermostats available in Europe.
-Google brings Matter support to its Nest Thermostat - The Verge
Has anyone here brought window and door detection into their smart themostat setup?
I’m hoping to simply turn Tado off via Home Assistant whenever the windows or balcony door are open.
Tado does this in-house, but it’s not very accurate. I often get random notifications that an open window has been detected when everything is closed. Equally sometimes we’ll open a window, Tado won’t detect it, but it will switch the heating on to 100%.
Does anyone here use sensors to do this or something similar? Bonus points if I can hook it up to my Apple TV and don’t need a separate hub.