Salary Sorter / Simple Bank Expenses

Simple user here. The expenses feature changed my life. After doing research online it looks like your Salary Sorter feature in the UK is very similar.

Do you have a plan to bring this to Monzo US?

Here is a breakdown of what I’m looking for:

-a way to customize buckets of specific recurring expenses (ie: hulu, car payment, rent, pet insurance, gas/electric, water, loan payments, etc). You can link recurring charges to them, set an amount and the day you need the funds by.

-on payday these specific buckets fill accordingly and the balance is hidden from your ‘available to spend’ amount.

-when these expenses withdrawal, they pull directly from their assigned bucket.

Please give us this feature. Let me know if you have questions. For some reason NO OTHER BANK has been able to mimic what Simple created. If you could do it I’d be a customer for life.

Thanks!

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For now the workaround seems to be to create pots for these expenses and schedule transfers in and out of the pots on certain days based on when the expense is due.

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Yeah. I’m looking at having to manually set all of this up, myself. It is doable and more time-consuming. And where Simple refugees will probably really feel it is in the lack of flexibility from what we were used to.

And before I dive into this, I reaaaaally want to emphasize that when I joined Simple in 2016, most of what I’ve come to rely on was not there to begin with. Yes, I love it. Yes, I’ll miss it. But these features were rolled out over years, so we have to give Monzo time to make their own evolutions.

So, take your time.

But hurry up. :slight_smile:

OK. Here it is. Breaking down:

SIMPLE’S EXPENSE & SALARY SORTER ONE-TWO PUNCH

Let’s say that I have a bill that is due on the 21st of every month in the amount of $500. (I do, actually, but that’s beside the point, and it’s a fantastic round number to play with).

Current Setup

Setting this up with the current Monzo environment would mean that I need to set up a $125 draw per week (I get paid weekly) into the pot for this expense. This works perfectly for 8 billing cycles out of the year. However, since there are 52 weeks in a year and not 48, this means that for 4 billing cycles, an extra $125 will be deposited into the pot.

While not perfect, this works out OK. The extra $125 four times per year seems like a small detail, and it is, on an individual expense level. But as a reality check, I have 47 active expenses and 8 active goals, all on different funding deadlines. Some are weekly, some monthly, some bi-monthly, some semi-annually, and some annually. While I’m capable of tracking this, it is time-consuming and is exactly the kind of task that computer automation excells at.

Simple’s Setup

Simple’s expense/salary sorter is actually a two-step approach.

  • Step one is handled by the expense itself. The expense calculates the number of pay periods between now and the due date and divides that into the outstanding total.

  • Step two occurs when the sorter asks the expense what it needs, and then hands it over.

For instance, the ‘ideal’ scenario for the $500 expense I mentioned before would look like this:

  • I pay my bill leaving an empty expense.

  • The expense runs Step One and sees it that it needs $500 and that there are four paydays left between now and the next due date, and says “$500 / 4 = $125 per payday”

  • Payday comes along and the salary sorter runs Step Two and asks the expense, “how much you need, my friend?” and the expense says, “$125, please”, and the sorter drops $125 into the expense.

  • The expense runs Step One again and sees that now it only needs $375 to meet the $500 requirement and that it has only 3 paydays to make that happen. That is $375 / 3 = $125/ pay period.

This back and forth is what makes this combo so flexible and powerful.

For instance, let’s say, after the initial $125 dropped into this account, I realize that I have family visiting and am short for my groceries and pull $75 from the expense, leaving only $50.

  • The expense automatically runs Step One again and recalculates: I need $500. I have $50. I need to collect $450. There are 3 paydays left. That’s $150/ pay period.

  • So, on the next payday, the salary sorter circles back around and asks, “how much you need?” and the expense then says $150.

So adjustments are all made programmatically and are completely self-correcting. There is no manual sorting or recalculating required.

Another alternate scenario is that on the 4 times per year when there are 5 paychecks between billings, the expense would initially calculate 500 / 5 = $100/week needed. So, there are no overages in my expense after it is paid on the 21st.

:grin:

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