It is subjective, but there are some shows that are clearly better than others and ones that more people like than others.
It seems like Netflix wants shows to be big successes straight away with lots of social media buzz, whereas many of the popular shows in the past took time to build up that audience. Breaking Bad I believe wasn’t that popular when it first launched, but the network stuck with it and ended up with a success.
Reddit is never happy about anything ever so that’s not a huge surprise.
Bear in mind production budgets are a big thing too, some shows are just much lower budget, they can sustain low audiences, but shows with relatively high budgets and big names absolutely need very high audiences to continue.
I sort of like it actually, I never loved that everything had to drag out to several seasons. Often one season is the right amount.
But many of the shows Netflix are cancelling are left on a cliffhanger or some sort of unfinished plot. That is why many people are annoyed. If it is designed to be a limited series and the story is told, sure, I don’t care what happens, but I understand why people are annoyed at Netflix constantly cancelling series with unfinished stories.
And it isn’t just reddit. It is essentially everywhere where people talk about Netflix. It is one of the most common complaints I see.
Not when the one season ends on such a massive cliffhanger that leaving it unresolved feels like the show has been a massive waste of your time and your investment was for nothing.
See: The Society, I Am Not Okay With This.
I understand part of the problem is that Netflix doesn’t do pilots, which means their first seasons get treated like pilots. No-one knows or cares if a network junks 20 pilots and chooses to make two. But everyone can see Netflix junking their ‘pilots’, and because they are full seasons rather than single episodes, the effect on the viewer is compounded.
These cliffhangers don’t really bother me I guess. I suspect in most cases it’s like Game of Thrones or Lost where they just start writing a load of questions without the answers in mind, and if they were resolved it’d just be unsatisfactory anyway. I don’t mind being left with questions and I’d prefer that to be being left with bad answers to the questions.
That’s true of Lost, but with Game of Thrones they knew what the answers were - problem was GRRM failed to deliver on his promise of having the last book written before the show caught up, so they had to actually write the last part of the route to the answers themselves.
Regarding the general concept of unanswered questions, I don’t necessarily mind when things are left hanging. What I very specifically have a problem with is when the questions are used very deliberately as a hook to interest you in the next season - massive cliffhanger - and then the show is cancelled.
There’s a balance that can be struck between delivering a satisfying ending to a season and teasing what’s to come next, and Netflix shows get it quite badly wrong.
Last show I remember really getting it right was The Sarah Connor Chronicles. It teased the new direction the show would go in if it got another season, but it wrapped up the existing story line and season in a satisfying manner so it would be ok if it didn’t.
Am reminded also that traditional shows get the chance to tweak things during broadcast, as they’re usually still filming the last few episodes. But because Netflix drop them all at once, there’s no chance to adjust on the fly.
I don’t think GRRM knows where he’s going either really. So many story threads have been opened I think tying them together satisfactorily would be almost impossible. Hence the constant writers block on the last books.
Oh yes, GRRM has absolutely blocked himself silly with all the threads he has to tie up. But the broad strokes of the ending - who kills the night king, who wins the war, of the kingdoms, who ends up on the throne, Dany’s parentage and heel turn - all of that was known from the start. Just GRRM too doesn’t know how to get there now.
I think also is the fact that, because he’s taken so long and all his planned endings are known, it feels like an anticlimax now. And he can’t change anything and spin a different result because that would ruin the plot machinations and foreshadowing.
I guess the TV show solved the main ones by teleporting armies around in a ‘please don’t ask questions, here’s a dragon to entertain you’ way. Going to be a lot harder to get away with that in the books
Obviously not a representative sample, but a lot of people here seem to be losing faith in Netflix https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1510903507896963075. I don’t want to continuously be negative about Netflix as they do have some good shows, but I do think they are going to have to change what they are doing soon. People are getting fed up with Netflix.
Would love to know how many of those in the media category are Netflix. It’s all I’ve been hearing of folks cancelling in my own social circles. I don’t any of my friends or family are subscribed to it anymore. The leeches use them more than the bill payers.
Some folks are getting rid of Now TV too. The only one that seems relatively safe from cancellation is Disney+. And that’s because I’m the one who subs to it and I’ve lost count of how many people are borrowing it now their Netflix is gone.
NOW is one that i will always just get for a month or two and then cancel. Its too expensive otherwise (although i have had a £1 per month offer for 4 months now so have kept it this time. I am more than willing to pay £1 a month).
I was more than willing to keep Netflix for much longer than i did, but the price rise combined with some quite poor content put me off.
Disney+ and Apple TV+ are a good price for me with good quality content. Its quality over quantity for me any day of the week and these two are good quality.
It’s weird, because whilst no one was happy with the price rise, the straw was the potential of a surcharge for extra households. When it becomes a one per household the price is harder to swallow.
Apple TV+ quality as part of an Apple One bundle for your apple family group is probably going to eat into some Spotify subs too.
I do think something is going to change in the streaming market as it is becoming way too saturated. We have Paramount+ later this year and then HBO Max by the end of 2025. I can see similar things like Peacock and Paramount+ being included with NOW becoming more common in the next few years.
Never thought I’d say it (Netflix was meant to be the future), but people are gonna start longing for their Sky back. Fortunately for them, Sky seem to be betting on and building the streaming version of that. I think Glass includes everything at this point and it’s a sub £30 price.
The real boon, is they’re the only aggregator platform with Netflix.
I saw a lot of people annoyed at that as well. It was probably seen as more greedy than simply putting up the prices. Despite it being against the T&Cs, account sharing outside of a household wont be seen as bad by many people because you are paying for the product. Why should Netflix control who we share our account with, especially when we are paying extra to be able to watch on more screens?