Monzo in the Media

Never had it suggested that the company makes a list

Monzo by default does not gender their customers, they didn’t even store gender in the database when I was there, deliberately (many other banks do, and they do ask for your gender when you apply).

I believe customer notes might store pronouns if the customer requests it. For employees I believe we use non-gendered language (check tone of voice doc?) and we always used the preferred name. Same for customers where it was legal, we would always use the preferred name for them. We stored gender in our HR system, but it was user set and it was mainly so we could track things like the gender pay gap.

I actually wored on some of this in the IAM team. It was really beautiful to see how people in my team cared so deeply about not deadnaming people.

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I believe so, yes. The Telegraph seems to be the only place it’s been reported.

The extreme part, where someone is acting like an arsehole, has nothing to do with the woke part, though. Those who go too extreme should rightly be criticised for going too far, but it shouldn’t then be used to discredit the concept of woke.

In a nutshell, I really dislike how a word from black culture has been appropriated and weaponised into a pejorative, and will push back against that.

tl;dr, call out bad behaviour for being bad behaviour, but don’t then use that to say wokeness is also bad.

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Blimey - I agree with something the Telegraph have published for once :slight_smile:

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It’s the same issue universities are facing. There are ways to check, however, their accuracy isn’t perfect and tends to be biased against those whose first language isn’t English.

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Monzo would not be able to know for certain if ChatGPT was used for a job application or not, as there is no definitive way to determine the source of an application’s content. However, there are some signs that may suggest the use of a language model like ChatGPT.

One indication is the quality and coherence of the language used in the application. ChatGPT is a highly advanced language model that is capable of producing human-like text, so if an application is exceptionally well-written and polished, it could suggest that a language model was used to generate it.

Source: ChatGPT wrote the above.

ChatGPT has a way of writing, and if you’re looking for it, it can seem pretty obvious. I don’t think Monzo will have an automated way of checking, more “hmm this smells incredibly fishy” whilst reviewing.

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Wow. So, in essence, ChatGPT argues that if anyone writes like it does, they’re fake.

Not everyone is an uneducated idiot. If I had to construct that sentence, that’s exactly how I would phrase it, and I’ve never used ChatGPT in my life.

If anyone is paper sifting on their own biases of ‘tone’ then perhaps they themselves should have spent more time paying attention at school?

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I reckon you’ll fall apart either at interview or in the first week of the job if you get ChatGPT to write the application.

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I think using ChatGPT is fair for jobs that require you to rewrite your entire CV but now this time in plaintext in little boxes but they have a character limit which is way above what’s on your CV so you have to waffle to be able to submit an application :joy:

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I always use chatGPT to write an initial cover letter and I don’t see the problem. It’s a way of quickly producing a basic letter you can then amend a bit, it makes applying for jobs a lot easier especially if you struggle with structuring, grammar etc.

I think it’s silly to consider that ‘cheating’, you are hopefully hired based on the skills your CV and letter describe, not on how well written those things are. Also - the ability to use AI writing models to speed up work effectively is a valuable skill.

Clearly if you are filling in a skills task for a developer job and filling in all the code sections with whatever ChatGPT outputs that’s a different matter.

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Unless the post you are applying for is “Covering Letter Writer.”

Even then, as long as the job gets done no one should care. It wouldn’t be the first time someone has sub contracted their job out to someone else.

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Monzo don’t want to invite people to interview who haven’t got a clue, but nobody does. That’s life unfortunately.

This is why you have HR and screening calls etc.

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I must be the only person who has never even tried this chat thingymabob yet :joy:

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I think I just got to a “sign up” page and just didn’t want to. Plus it’s banned at work and I spend most of my life there where I’m actually online.

I can see how it’ll change things, but I just don’t see a need for it right now in my life. I’ll be that old man not knowing what’s going on I’m sure when it’s something I have to use, but for now it’s not on my radar.

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I’m with you :joy:

Other half was doing something on it the other day. Also watched the South Park episode about it. Now I’m curious if he’s responding to my messages via gpt. :neutral_face:

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It feels like a very easy way to get very mentally lazy very quickly.

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How does one reply to a message using it?

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I see you as a formal writer, good prose etc… but now I’m wondering if I think that because you use AI!

It doesn’t bother me, of course, but since you mentioned it now I keep wondering what’s AI and what’s “you” :joy:

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You’re not :slight_smile: I really don’t understand all the hype around it.