Yeah that was my concern.
The burnouts only occur in the original modal as it wasn’t designed to go upto 19mph. The pro model however is designed for 19mph but has a limiter which can be removed
The other dangerous ones include increasing currents and power output beyond what the scooter is capable o
But yeah 15 is still fast. I’m heavy at around 93kg but still get good acceleration and speeds
Also, the government is due to publish the legal framework today. Fingers crossed they don’t go overboard.
This is exactly why they need enforcing.
If anyone can pick these up, no training, licence, insurance or anything and fly around public places and in the road at those speeds, they’re going to do some serious harm to themselves or others.
Agree, but no harm in de-restricting for use on private land. Also worth mentioning that there are plenty of cyclists flying along at much faster speeds than that.
Reason for me de restricting is simply to help getting up hills for more momentum
I have a driving license with 0 points so I know the roads fairly well
That old chestnut 
I remember doing mods on my car when young for “off road use only” but we all know that’s not what it’s for 
Difference being that my mods didn’t make my car faster and in addition to all my training, I had regular MOTs to make sure it was safe and my brakes were efficient etc. They didn’t put everyone around me at an even greater risk.
Keep me updated on that please
Glad to know my scooter is ip54 grade so some light rain won’t hurt but defo no big puddles
licence, not license.
Whilst unlikely you’ll be stopped, you could be prosecuted for Driving Otherwise Than in Accordance With a Licence and Driving a Motor Vehicle on a Road Without Third Party Insurance.
That’s potentially 9 points and £400 in fines. Plus the vehicle could be seized with associated seizure cost and daily storage then crushed after 14 days.
That said, I still can not find any evidence that anyone has been fined in this way. I think there is some proportionality in approach by the police.
Let’s hope that UK Gov sorts out a legal framework soon. I think we need it. These vehicles could solve a problem in urban mobility and reduce congestion provided that the right framework is in place for their use.
19mph dangerous ? Cars can go upto 160mph
Are you joking? If you got hit with something at 19mph you’d be seriously hurt and the faster you go, the less time you have to react.
With that logic if I don’t go over 19mph in my car do I not need a licence? Perhaps I can start driving on the pavements too?
That’s a great start.
Speed restricted, safety gear needs to be worn and no doubt they will need to sign a document that provides them insurance as well as a legal agreement that they will be used responsibly.
There’s a long way to go for privately owned ones though.
You can’t enforce speed restrictions because it will always be possible to bypass them.
Myself I always wear safety gear
And in response to your other post. I’ve been just under 15mph and had a cyclist whizz straight past me
Speed cameras, but for bikes and scooters… hopefully not (but I know one place I’d put them)
If that’s how you justify flying around at 19mph then it just further supports the argument of why they need enforcing 
Please don’t copy of other people being careless and think it’s ok as a result.
My problem with electric scooters is the same as my problem with cyclists. There is no accountability at all. You hear about dodgy drivers on the road all the time, but it’s easy to be caught and punished in a car because of reg plates. I’ve seen many many poor/dangerous cyclists and scooter riders on the road but they get away with it because unless they cut up a police car and get stopped there is absolutely 0 accountability at all
I do think that something needs to change here, I don’t know what the answer is but that is my opinion
I don’t “ fly around at 19mph “ I stay around 12mph and even less if there’s other people around
You get idiots riding them and you get responsible people . Same as car owners
I don’t think you’re helping yourself here 
Thankfully the law sees things differently and I hope some of what has been said by others makes people think twice when they’re out on these things because they really can be dangerous.
So can motorbikes 
My view is they can be ridden safely . Your entitled to your view too 
You’re missing the point everyone is making entirely.
I have one of these and it’s far tougher to get a licence to ride a motorbike than a car. They’re not only restricted by age but also power. There’s not just 1 licence either, here is a table of all the different types: Riding a motorcycle, moped or motor tricycle: Bike categories, ages and licence requirements - GOV.UK
If this is what you’re suggesting electric scooters should be like I agree 
