COVID-19 (Coronavirus)

Oh I totally agree, I am equally frustrated to see perfectly healthy looking young people without masks. I completely understand that some people are genuinely exempt but they should be few and far between in reality.

I went to Cineworld at the O2 and every single member of staff serving were certainly late teens or early 20s and not a single one was wearing a mask. Not a single one. We have a culture that means we cannot challenge this.

Not liking a mask is not the same as not being able to wear one. I do not enjoy wearing them.

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I really don’t mind wearing them. Only sometimes if I’m wearing makeup they can smudge it a bit which is annoying.

I don’t really mind if others are wearing them. I got tired of worrying about other people’s behaviour almost as soon as the pandemic began. Perhaps they have a reason, perhaps they don’t, not really my concern. I protect myself and others around me as best I can, that’s all I can do.

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I don’t spend all my days being annoyed of course, but with mask the protection mostly comes from the other person wearing one. You can wear one all day; all you’re doing mostly is protecting others from yourself. To protect you, you need to have the others wearing one, not the other way around.

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I know that, but I’ve never been overly worried about catching covid anyway. I’m more concerned about unwittingly spreading it to others who might be vulnerable.

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I think supermarkets are allowed to challenge, though they have, understandably, chosen not to.

I’ve recently been to two Sainsburys supermarkets, one in London, and one in Wales. The one in London had many more customers who were apparently too fragile to be able to cover their face than did the one in Wales. But the Welsh one had someone at the entrance offering masks to anyone who wasn’t wearing one. It seemed to work most of the time. So that may have made a difference.

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For anyone wanting mask wearing more strictly enforced, I wonder if she wants a job? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

On a more serious note… encouraging news :slightly_smiling_face:

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Masks protect others from you not the other way round.

How do you figure that out?

Depends very much on the type of mask.

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It’s pretty well documented that the bulk of masks jobs are to stop things coming from your mouth into the air into another person.

They aren’t completely useless of course but broadly speaking they don’t prevent viruses getting in, they do a better job the other way around.

What I believe the basic premise is, is that the mask isn’t going to stop tiny things passing through but the bulk of the virus in you will come out in larger droplets so it’s removes some of the risk.

Breathing in though, the virus is generally airborne in tiny enough droplets to get through.

The obvious protection is when someone isn’t wearing a mask and they spray you with larger droplets, but the edge is still more towards a mask protecting others more than yourself.

of course this entirely depends on the type of mask but almost everyone wears basic masks that don’t protect entirely

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I know that. I protect myself, as far as is reasonable, by things like cycling instead of using the tube. And being vaccinated, using hand gel, loads of stuff.

Still, as above that is mainly because reducing the chance of me getting it is one way to reduce the chance of others getting it from me.

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I probably didn’t explain it well. In Latvia, this Tesco doesn’t enforce covid pass on entry, but the Tesco two blocks down does.

And there is a map, to check which store of the same chain of stores operate under which class of enforcement regime. Thus one can choose to shop where everyone else is vaccinated/tested.

Nice to see the tide turning, about time…

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What ā€œtideā€? NHS staff numbers are dropping like flies due to being ill with Covid or testing positive and having to isolate.

Not concerning graphs at all…

Although winter data is always different than summer data.
Let’s see last winter compared to this.
Then place 10-15% absence within NHS.
This will give us a more realistic understanding of whether England is correct to go softly softly or whether January is going to be a really bad month for the NHS (worse than a normal year).

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Despite this, people in ICU has been gradually decreasing since November. And compared to this time last year, this number is around 5x lower. Good news.

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I wonder how this compares to the number of patients in the ICU pre-covid. So we can get an idea of when the NHS might get some capacity in the system again.

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