That’s really great, I really think they should have made the flu jab free for everyone this year to encourage it. I still got mine for £12 at boots and I think Asda does them for £6, but free would really help.
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I still disagree. I’d make masks mandatory again, maybe make LFT tests mandatory for covid passes, before vaccination. This is going to cause protests, possibly riots, and then probably unnecessarily clog up the justice system with nutters who won’t get vaccinated, all things that are just going to spread the illness.
Vaccination is one of many things that makes transmission less. Someone non vaccinated who is doing LFTs every other day is probably less of a risk than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t bother testing. And the people who wont do anything… they wont be forced to take a vaccine no matter what the law says.
Mine cost £14.99 
Worth it though
Still waiting to know when I can get my booster. It’s been agreed but no roll out date
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Absolutely, I mean societal benefits aside, if you get flu you will very much wish you had paid £15 to not have flu!
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Can I ask your reasons for being in favour of such restrictions?
There are now valid arguments both for and against most of the restrictions in place because of covid, so isn’t it now time for the powers that be to give us both sides of the argument and then let people make their own choices.
This goes for all countries, not just our own.
Because there will be restrictions forever more until vaccination reaches higher rates (I am talking generally, not U.K. specific). We all want the same thing - no restrictions. That will not happen until higher rates are achieved, high enough that it is not an issue for hospitals every winter.
I don’t see why I should suffer because some people are too selfish to get vaccinated. It should them be having restrictions, not me.
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Because I understand data and science.
The “arguments against” are mostly complete bollocks.
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But wouldn’t you agree that some of the arguments “for” are as well?
I don’t really want to get into this with you as you’ve proved all you care about over the last 18 months is getting people on busses.
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Along with hospitality, shops, theatres, travel, etc. all not going bust.
Is that such a bad thing?
If more had not been so silly and got the vaccine we could have been much further back to normal without hospitals having issues.
Everyone DOESNT want things to go bust, we ALL want normal, EVERYONE getting the vaccine as soon as possible is the fastest and easiest way to do this and it will hopefully prevent the NHS having major issues when flu truly hits at the same time.
All this arguing and humming and haying over whether to get it causes the delays that doesnt help anyone and aids those businesses going bust.
Facebook/Random internet doctor wanting to get famous saying vaccine bad does not make the vaccine bad.
If all the non vaccinated people went to get the vaccine tomorrow (assuming capacity) it would still be a month before everyone was protected. All the delays and stupid “but I saw this random doc saying look look his stats say it doesnt work/will kill you” cause the issues we have now.
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I was meaning more the possibility of safer holidays and work. Working from home should stay for a lot tbh even if its not the full working week.
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Unfortunately, that may not be the case.
Sigh… it doesnt stop you getting it, it does reduce the chance and it does massively reduce your recovery time.
Also like most things there is no word on if that’s foreign (aka Spanish) workers which may not be vaccinated that have been tested when working in Gibraltar and having to isolate in place or the massive tourism base. Hell we dont even know the % that are fully vaccinated in that article, its just an insinuation that the vaccine isnt working.
You will ALWAYS find storys that will try to fit into your narrative when you scour as much as you do.
Screw it, since you dislike vaccines so much lets all not get vaccinated and let the deaths rocket up, that seems to be better for you than everyone getting the jab. Hell even if they dont die they could get long covid and be unable to work.
Or wait would that be stupid… and end up with the lockdown we had at the start with lots of deaths.
So many anti vaccine people dont give real alternatives when we actually have something that works…
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I’ve never said I dislike them, just the way propaganda and coercion is being used to promote them.
There is a difference.
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But the annual NHS winter collapse is almost tradition now.
Any issues with the NHS this winter are a side-effect of many years of managed decline of the NHS under both Labour and Tory governments, and closing off the NHS to anything that isn’t Covid for 18 months, resulting in huge backlogs of conditions that are reliably more fatal than Covid (cancers etc)
From the sound of some of the posts on here, I don’t believe that for a second.
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Indeed. It is very possible to be both pro-vaccine and anti-mandates.
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I dislike propaganda and coercion being used to put people off from getting them. Look at the angry protests at vaccine centres and the anger at people being encouraged to get them (aka claims of coercion)
If all that FUD had not been spread by muppets the vaccine rate would be far better.
Hell the uk gov couldnt even get everyone to wear masks, a trivial request which prevented spread because of the propaganda about how it was control and taking away peoples freedom.
There is so much BS about the negatives of the vaccines that I am not sure what can be done now.
No one has a solution, people who are anti vax wont wear masks often, they wont get the jab, they hate on people who do either and they walk about happy to spread it. Let them rip I guess is the only way forward (jk) but what can be done… if the gov does anything its nazi like always…
When you get abuse for wearing a mask by facebook warriors its hard to see how there wont be more problems. Wait until the next virus comes along…
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I specifically said I wasn’t talking about the uk - the conversation was sparked by Austria.
If you are comfortable with Government imposed restrictions, then that is your choice and whether I agree or not it is also your right.
But surely those who disagree have the same choice and right.
And that is something I do not agree with.
As I am trying to say we all have a choice and we should all respect each others choice.