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I have it on iOS. Woooop!!

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Aww donā€™t make me wait this long for this feature and not have the ability to schedule Pot to Pot transfers! Thatā€™s the key part of what Iā€™ve been waiting for.

That said, itā€™s good to see the feature being worked on :slight_smile:

Because that isnā€™t how Monzo releases features. Shipping code that makes a feature possible != launch.

a) the feature might not be ready server side
b) it might just be a test
c) the test might not pass or ever get released

Monzo usually does use the release notes for wider rollouts of sizer features. But if a feature is rolling out to 50% of the public for a simple test, it would be frustrating for the 50% in the control to see on the notes ā€œsome people may have our new x featureā€ or just ā€œweā€™ve released our new x featureā€.

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Sure. But thatā€™s more an excuse for a poor UX than an explanation or justification for it. You say it like there are no alternatives for informing users with this approach; there are many. Informing users of new features and actual bug fixes isnā€™t incompatible with their approach. It also doesnā€™t change the fact it is the most frustrating way for software companies to ship things from the end userā€™s perspective.

One feature Iā€™ve been requesting for years is the ability to edit scheduled pot payments rather than having to cancel them. Monzo added it at some point this year. Never told anyone. Everyone has it now (anecdotally), thereā€™s no AB test there. I found it by accident, who knows how long after it was actually added.

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:soon: :soon: :soon:

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Not really, it is a reason, and the one Iā€™d say is the most likely reason. And sufficiently explains why.

If weā€™re talking about app store release notes, which we are, given everyone gets the same release notes (but may be part of numerous different tests that other users are not) what alternative is there? List out every single test and feature that got released (that you may or may not have, and may never see the light of day?). I think thatā€™s pretty unreasonable.

They have an opportunity to educate in the app, e.g via feed items or new tiles that link to the usual educational swiping screens. But theyā€™re used for larger features again, or something complicated that requires explaining. Personally, I think Monzo uses these in the correct balance (given they take up some engineering time to put together).

They could put together a customised changelog in app that adapts per user which would be quite cool, but thatā€™d only cater for power users and not add much value for anyone else, or business value, so itā€™s unlikely, but would be nice to see (as a power user).

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there are a few things:

  • what Google does
  • what PayPal does

Or a myriad of simpler variations of this:

Or this:

Neither of which are alien constructs for sharing whatā€™s new when you ship this way, and are used by many developers. I donā€™t agree with the argument theyā€™re just got power users either.

Raiding the rainy day fund for a new iPhone, nice :laughing:

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Am I missing something?

PayPal for the past 8 months
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Googleā€™s apps are all similar to Google Maps:

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Just thinking out loud but perhaps as well as testing out a new feature the discoverability might also be part of the test?

After release wouldnā€™t this have been found the next time someone went to cancel the scheduled pot payment though, and therefore an announcement wouldnā€™t be needed? Those who need the feature would discover it organically.

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I donā€™t know! Thatā€™s not how I found it, personally. I found it after cancelling them, when trying to set the new ones and getting the dates wrong several times because we still have the annoying wheel! So several attempts, and my clicking on the thing by accident is how I discovered the feature. I was also the first one to report the feature to my knowledge on here as well.

With muscle so strong after years of cancelling, the edit payment button just never registered until my finger missed the cancel button.

Maybe?

For the past several months, the release notes for Google home have been talking about the (very) slow rollout of some changes to the app. I only just got them last week, but the rollout has been mentioned in the release notes for every update for the past several months. I donā€™t use any other Google apps so canā€™t compare.

When PayPal are rolling out something new, like the ability to edit existing authorisations directly from the app (very minor, would have been impossible to discover without being told), their release notes follow the same pattern as Google Home. PayPal have also used it to announce tests in the past too. Been a long while since theyā€™ve done either, but itā€™s been a long while since anything in the app has changed at all too.


To be clear itā€™s not the very new redesign Iā€™m talking about here, but the more minor tweaks below the most recent 2 updates.

Now Iā€™ve not used the Google Home app for very long, but theyā€™ve done this for every new feature theyā€™ve added since I started.

Theyā€™re not limited to just App Store release notes either, by focusing specifically on that, you missed the core of my point. That Monzo keep adding new features to the iOS app (whether parity or something else) and donā€™t tell anyone about it directly.

Gahh. You canā€™t move money to/from a Monzo instant access savings pot. Rest are fine. How silly

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Re the pot movement chat above, big +1 for being able to include the instant savings pot as well!

Still happy with the improvement but god I am so excited for the day when a feature launches without some arbitrary (or at least seemingly arbitrary) restriction on it :woman_facepalming:t2:

Different topic, but I have already started using flex more for smaller transactions since the cash back trial launching yesterday (my local shop is a sains) and assuming I continue to stay signed up (probably will but I am interested in the privacy/data sharing conversation going on in the main thread) I imagine I will be using my flex a lot more.

Which brings me onto the unified activity feed! I know that connected accounts are apparently more difficult albeit supposedly in the works - but surely flex should be in there?

Iā€™ve got personal and joint transactions - if Iā€™m being incentivised to use flex more like a daily credit card (default plan, pay off at end of month, general improvements), then it would be very nice to see those daily transactions in my feed alongside my other spending.

:crossed_fingers::crossed_fingers:

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The weird thing was, Flex was in All Activity for a while before it was pulled.

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Okay! I did think it was at first, glad I wasnā€™t making that up.

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Now that this oneā€™s been cleared up, when are we getting Joint Account Parity?

/s

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I personally absolutely hate the slow rollout release notes that go on for months. Itā€™s just annoying as you expect to see it every time the app updates and then itā€™s still not there. Google is exceptionally egregious for it.

I do think there is a middle ground though, but as a non-engineer I canā€™t talk to the opportunity cost in designing one.

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Damn, is this IOS?

Yes. Thatā€™s iOS. But itā€™s also been seen on android.

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What are some example use cases for this?
I canā€™t think when I might make use of it.

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