Switched from Monzo to a legacy bank (Barclays) đŸ’«

Hi Richard, very glad to hear that was the case! Thanks for providing us all this update to clarify the situation, it makes a lot of sense now :slight_smile:

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I also switched from Monzo. Except I am using Starling’s integration with Yolt as well as my backup legacy bank and my credit card. This gives me a full view of my finances as well as instant notifications.

I hope Monzo gets the API up and running quite soon in 2018 so I can move back. :slight_smile:

I think the CA should have been rolled out after Christmas to allow for features to be polished and to reduce the perceived downtime over the holidays.

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Björn Ulvaeus a hipster?

Who knew? :hushed:

Also thinking - with the Bulb thing. ING/Yolt may have plans for ads or selling services
 But they aren’t my bank.Yes, they’re reading my full transaction list - but if I get annoyed I can move in minutes back to the native app or another aggregator with no hassle, any repercussions or work on my part.

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Interesting to see Monzo favouriting tweets from people who thought they’d signed up for a travel card.

With the 3% fee over £200 per month on foreign cash withdrawals, that customers stupidly voted for, I can’t help but think that a lot of Monzo Travel Card holders will find themselves disappointed.

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Ultimately it depends what you value most from your account.

I moved away from Barclays a few years ago after many years with them. Their in-branch service was (and still is) appallingly slow. They refused to refund me when I got tricked at a cashpoint once, saying the fact that someone had seen my pin meant I was grossly negligent (despite this happening once in around 20 years and their slow telephone system delaying my freezing of the account). They also kept bombarding me with loan and overdraft offers I wasn’t interested in.

I value the largely automated budgeting tools Monzo gives me more than a couple of hundred quid a year I could make elsewhere or by putting everything on my Amex. Personally I’m not fussed about Apple Pay, I’d rather take a worthless bit of plastic out when I pay rather than flash an expensive phone around needlessly.

It is interesting to see the wide variety of different things that different people prioritise from their accounts though. If it doesn’t work for you now then I can understand why you might use another bank. Personally though I expect the front facing stuff to improve markedly later this year after the account migration completes, so can see many switching back later in the year once the feature set matches and then pulls further away from legacy banks.

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Really?

I take your point about the tweet, and, as it happens, I think that Monzo still works reasonably well as a travel card although there are better options now.

Calling fellow forum members stupid is rather odd, though. People will have voted the way they did for various reasons, but calling them stupid for doing so is utterly pointless and insulting.

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I didn’t call anyone stupid. The option that many voted for was stupid. Many prepaid card holders, totally new to the community, came in and voted.

The majority went for an option that wasn’t even the preferred option of Monzo themselves.

The vote was stupid; not the customers.

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Unfortunately Android users don’t have this yet. Hope to see these things soon and then I am sure I will re-think again.

I like the model of continuous delivery - as for why Monzo do it - they seem to follow an agile development model which matches with this approach very well

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I appreciate that you don’t like the option people chose, but could you have expressed it without being derogatory and putting down other peoples opinion? Ultimately I didn’t want Brexit either but both of these things were decided democratically and I won’t argue against the fairness of it

For full disclosure, I like the option that won. For my usage scenario nothing will change with the introduction of fees

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As my usage scenario is ‘leave Monzo card in my drawer’, nothing will change for me either :wink:

I’m not going to touch brexit, but I don’t think companies making difficult strategic decisions by outsourcing them to a public poll is a great idea. This, far more than the actual fee structure decided on, was probably the first thing that pushed me away from Monzo. To me, it came across as Monzo being more interested in showing how open and different they were than in making a hard choice.

I notice that for debit card top-up fees they asked for comments but haven’t made it a vote - hopefully they’ve learned their lesson :slight_smile:

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Sounds very much like Brexit :joy::joy:

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I do wish people would stop thinking they know what I’m thinking. (For the record, I care not about the result of that poll as it does not affect me.)

I’m not putting down anyone’s opinion. I have already clarified this but still you persist?

Monzo offered three options. The one chosen was not their preferred option. The option chosen seems not to be the option best suited to customers, either. It’s all a bit silly. It has been discussed previously in the community. Nobody wins from the outcome.

The vote was stupid. I am not being derogatory to anyone and this does seem to be a concerted effort to blow out of all proportion, and context, my use of one word. It’s derailing the topic and that is not my intent.

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I think this was a great way for Monzo to address the problem. I preferred to have had the choice rather than Monzo trying to decide what it thought it’s customers might want. If Monzo were left to decide they would have chosen something the majority of people didn’t want.

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I contacted Yolt recently about Monzo. They said they are all ready to go, just awaiting Monzo to press the GO button


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But surely Monzo employees are bright enough people, with enough experience in financial services, to make the decisions for us; surely that’s what you want from a bank? It’s the same thing you want from a government. You vote for a party that you feel represents you and your beliefs, then place trust in their expertise to make the right decisions for you, in things you have no idea about.

Surely they need to price in order to reach certain liquidity thresholds, appease investors etc., rather than ‘letting the people decide’?

What are the criteria for when we’re asked our opinions and when we’re not? I’d feel more comfortable and reassured if it was for UX/design related questions, rather than fundamental banking/pricing principles.

I’m all for openness and transparency, but there are some things we shouldn’t be deciding.

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For me one of the biggest concerns is the lack of security on the Android app. You can open it, view my balance, transactions, etc. without even needing a PIN. I know they’re working on fingerprint security, which is still 3-6 months away, but why not add the card PIN or similar to give at least a hint of security in the mean time!

You can’t actively do anything within the app without using the PIN though.

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but It wasn’t a complicated decision that required a government or a group of financial experts to decide. It was asking people what charging method they preferred.

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