As I said, I always found James to be very fair. He listened to my points when he had a go at me for sharing the card design, and before he went back to uni there was an effort behind the scenes to improve things - that I do know. Now he has gone back to uni, the original group are not around (Sarah/James and even Patrick), so its unsurprising.
Being more on topic of Starling Vs Monzo features, rather than the forum closing down, I do have to say that the sign-up is a bit better with Starting.
Iâve just signed up to Monzo and now canât do anything in the app until the card arrives. With Starling, I could add the card to Google Pay in the app and immediately start using the account. I could also use the weekend to start adding payees etc and get a head start, whereas with Monzo itâs going to have to wait until next weekend (Iâm working away all week).
I could see this happening eventually, but not so suddenly. I do think it has been a knee jerk response. I largely agree with what youâre saying, but I prefer it closed over people acting more positive to please Starling. Giving a false sense of things being all well and good wouldnât help them or the customers.
I thought you could add payees and do bank transfers?
Itâs stuck on a screen with the only option being âactivate my cardâ, which I donât have yet
I think you could with the prepaid card, but I know from experience that you canât do anything in the app until the card arrives with the current account. It is one area I was disappointed when joining Monzo. I fed this back in app and had a reasonable discussion around it; I believe itâs just not something important right now but may be changed eventually.
I hope someone else can find it, because I canât.
I remember @cookywook posting (around 2 months ago), that Monzo were allowing people to âdo moreâ with their account before the card arrived.
I remember, because I said I was disappointed you couldnât use the card, and if you canât use the card⌠Whatâs the point?
The answer was⌠âSetting up direct debits, bank transfers, adding payees etcâ.
Or something like that.
notifications
savings goals
fee free foreign card use
Google Pay.
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OK - Someone needs to find it 
Iâve tried and failed - Someone must remember??
I remember seeing this, but I thought it was way back and regarding the prepaid account. 
I set up my Joint Account yesterday and I can already use my existing Payees from my Personal Account (better than Starling) and have done so to set-up Standing Orders. Iâve also setup two Direct Debits using the account details that I got straight away, obviously as I only set them up last night, they havenât shown up in-app just yet.
I am however missing the âadd to Apple Payâ and start using the account straight away function.
Other thing is that the Profile logos are pulled in from the users own accounts and that also works!
The thing that originally turned me off Monzo was when they introduced the ÂŁ200 limit on foreign ATM withdrawals before charging a fee. Starling still manage to provide this service without any fees, which is a big plus point. Iâd love to think that Monzo will revisit this decision at some point in the future but I suspect not.
One thing I like about Monzo is the round-up feature, something a lot of users requested via the Starling community and even got a mention in their last roadmap but, unfortunately, they recently confirmed itâs not being developed.
I do prefer the Starling look and feel but Monzoâs recent âbig listâ really peaked my interest. I was really impressed with the communication they put out, the pace of development and the updates on what was achieved.
Iâm curious how youâll know if Starling do start to cap ATM limits. Given past communications, youâll likely first find out by hitting the limit while abroad. 
Thanks for finding that; I was also looking. It seems, at least from my experience and talk to CS, that this hasnât gone full rollout yet. I wonder if this is still an experiment?
Starling has their fingers in a lot more pies than Monzo - their entry into the platform as a service, business banking and payment services counter that. Monzo has to make the current account self sufficient has that is the product, hence charging for it.
Thank you! I knew I wasnât going mad.
Forgot it was from âMaking Monzoâ - I thought it was a fully published release.
@cookywook - Any update on this one?
Have asked for them to fix this⌠hopefully if we get more traction they might change it:
Nationwide do this. Well, sort of: if you have a card in Apple Pay, and order a new card, Apple Pay automatically updates. Iâm assuming Google Pay/Samsung Pay also do.
Amex put the contactless logo on both sides for me?
