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Should be using crypto then lol

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But my payment reason was “Gardening” :rofl:

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Interesting seeing the number of inside job theories going around that there are staff within Revolut supposedly doing the defrauding of UK customers post license which clearly isn’t true otherwise they wouldn’t have got their license and also they’d be risking their wider licenses if it ever were to be found true in the EU and abroad which I don’t think they’d do. Giving up their wider worldwide profit for the small amount of change in the UK for something that started in 2018 would be suicide and non sensical if you were to even believe the claims for a second.

Obviously people are angry as they should be that they were defrauded, anyone on Reddit will know the video I’m referring to doing the rounds recently from TikTok of an influencer who claimed she works in banking, lost money on Revolut, got nowhere tagged the FCA and basically in writing accused Revolut of staff internally doing an inside job and got her money back straight away :thinking:

Not saying I do or don’t believe her but the fact she was instantly refunded once she brought the FCA in and accused Revolut of an inside job does ring alarm bells even if it is false

To be clear this post is not me accusing Revolut of doing an inside job I personally don’t believe the theory and think it most likely coincidental, just posting this purely for discussion

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There are also other similar claims but I believe some of them again related to the time before Revolut received their full UK license so I wouldn’t be surprised if those people see the UK license, wrongly assume because it’s a bank now old transactions fall within the FCA/PRA’s remit when it doesn’t and don’t understand their incident happened before the license was granted and that their incident would fall under the old e-money license.

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Just people being bitter cuz “account closed for no reason so why should anyone else use it” posts.

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I saw that post too but didn’t pay much attention to it, I’ve not worked in banking but would be astonished if regular frontline support staff could even view customer data, much less act on it. I work for a company that does have a lot of customer data (70 million users in fact) - I can’t see any of it and in the highly rare situation customer data would need to be directly viewed, it requires customer permission not to mention multiple levels of internal review before coming close to gaining approval.

On another note, there’s another post on there from someone who’s 18 and has been refused an account from Revolut and can’t understand why - but did mention that they tried to change the name on their mother’s account with their ID when they were 16 ‘if that counts’ - and it shouldn’t really matter anyway because ‘everyone does it’ :rofl: :rofl: :thinking:

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With over 10,000 employees, I’d expect Revolut to experience the occasional inside job. I’d expect this within any large bank. The FCA also expects this.

As long as they deal with the situation as soon as they become aware and ensure the situation is put right and changes made, that’s what matters to the regulators. Systems really should be designed to stop this from happening in the first place though.

You also have the issue of criminal gangs having their members apply for jobs at banks, to gain a foothold. Similar to what the IT sector is experiencing with NK applicants.

This certainly wouldn’t put me off Revolut, even if they were to admit it happened.

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I’d suspect though there’s very few inside people that can carry out direct transactions on a customers account, and those that can likely have to do it under ‘multiple eyes’ - there’s several people that have to be involved in the process for the very reason of reducing the risk of a lone wolf

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Exactly. That’s why I mentioned the issue with criminal groups gaining a foothold. It would rarely be just one employee or one department involved.

Banks are often chaotic from the inside, especially ones experiencing rapid growth. It’s not the perfect world some people seem to think it is.

Insider threats happens, chances are the people posting on Reddit are just full of BS though.

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Hmmm… I think maybe someone at Revolut should’ve taken a few extra minutes to compose this message before they posted it out with this subject….

Try Kids and Teens? Erm - what on a multi-billionaires dodgy island?

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Is this a targeted message? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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I would expect the controls to be there to pick up on this very quickly.

Plus they will get audited on this sort of thing.

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Yes. That’s the purpose of GRC. However, without the controls, it would be rife. With the controls, it’s thankfully a rare event, but still happens.

Yes, I could not be more aware of this. There will still be residual risk and instances of insider threats succeeding in whatever their objective was. As I said, it’s thankfully rare.

My point stands, Revolut will experience this, as will Lloyds, NatWest and I’d hazard a guess that Monzo has experienced it also at some point. It’s not something that is communicated to staff, you will simply be told that your colleague, “X is no longer with the business”.

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One of the old requirements was that bank staff had their current account with the bank. I remember when I applied to Natwest grad scheme this was the case, this was the primary way they kept track of employees especially if large amounts of money were in the account unexpectedly.

However this was the 90s when there were only a few banks, nowadays I suspect they have more clever controls than just watching someones account

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Fraud by bank staff in the 90s was very common. The main banks had an entire team who worked on staff investigations full time, as there were that many concurrent cases.

Thankfully, those days are gone. It’s now much rarer and far more high tech. It’s mostly organised crime these days rather than lone wolfs or opportunistic bad apples.

From the customer perspective, I’m sure it’s nicer to believe that everything is perfect and secure within the organisation that holds your money. This is just self soothing, sadly.

The customer doesn’t need to worry, as the bank will cover any loss (usually very quickly).

Back to the topic. Who on here is “Full Revolut”?

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I’m planning to go full Revolut currently, my current stack is Monzo Max, Lloyd’s Premier, and Revolut Metal although i am looking to go to Ultra. Lloyd’s was pretty disappointing and has me feeling more disconnected from my spending, balance etc than any time in recent memory. But I like the credit insights of Monzo Max

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Home Screen layout works in my favour for sure.

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:joy::joy::joy:

I like Revolut don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think you’d ever find me full Revolut no matter what accreditation they hold

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Same. They have just never appealed to me for some reason. I do like the wallpapers in the Revolut app though. Nice card designs also.

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Got the new AI feature, as with other banks (and most AI) it seems useless but the main annoyance is that I’m so used to swiping down to get to the list of accounts I keep triggering it by mistake

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