Monzo on Watchdog 17/10/2019

After reading the comments, what’s really concerning is how fickle society is. After a single negative piece on Monzo, people got scared and are ready to jump ship. Like I’ve always said, Monzo are the most transparent bank out there. If they could tell you why they block accounts, I’m sure they would. You should be scared of what the existing incumbents don’t tell you.

Sending someone on the show would have been an embarrassing pointless exercise. The presenter would have kept talking down to, and over the Monzo rep. It would have blown the situation out of proportion more than it already is.

Monzo responded in the best way possible, by posting a succinct and easy to digest post explaining why they block accounts - https://monzo.com/blog/2019/04/04/why-we-block-freeze-close-monzo-accounts/. Unfortunately, a lot of people probably didn’t even read it due to such short tweet-like attention spans.

Let’s get one thing straight. Watchdog is essentially a televised version of the Daily Mail. It was a clickbait style piece scaremongering people into staying with their existing laggard banks.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was setup by somehow high up in the BBC who’s friends with someone high up in HSBC / Barclays / RBS etc.

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Was literally just said in the Watchdog - you do hear about it more often than not when spoken about accounts being frozen.

So, in traditional 10pm digging, I’ve found the NCA’s report on SAR’s from 2018.

Points worth sharing…

  • 371,000 SAR’s come from Banks (out of a total of 460,000)
  • This represents a 6% vs the previous year.
  • In each month, around 30,000 SARs are submitted.

They don’t list any specifics in here about timing to resolve, or outcome by sector, etc, so it’s hard to make any signifiant inference as to the effectiveness - but suffice to say there are A LOT of SARs floating around.

EDIT to add:

Now have found the 2015 report, which includes statistics on SAR’s with ‘consent requests refused’, here

The points from this are:

  • Total SARs at 381,000 up 8% from the previous year (354,000)
  • Banks account for 81% (318,000)
  • SAR consent refused (i.e. those that are held past the initial 7 days) = 9.4%, with 42% of those refused later accepted (i.e. those that are returned by the 40 day deadline).

So can assume that the growth is consistent YOY (around 8-10%), and the rejections and amount of SARs by banks are about the same too.

If it’s showing that 90% of SAR’s are effectively stopped, surely there is a problem in the reporting requirements and money laundering rules/flags, rather than an issue with specific banks?

I’d like to point anyone that has concerns to the review pages of other big banks:

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.natwest.com
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.nationwide.co.uk
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.santander.co.uk

People are obviously much more vocal when something goes wrong

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Haven’t seen the episode yet… don’t really care what has been said either :man_shrugging:

I’ve been with Monzo for ages now. I’m happy and I’m not going to let anyone else influence my decision :slight_smile:

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If you feel like this you shouldn’t watch Watchdog.

You’d literally have to throwout every appliance in the house and build a wigwam out of sticks and mud to live in.

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The question is why some of those accounts are being frozen at all?

Because the system flags them as “suspicious” - and yes, legit accounts sometimes do to.

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Anecdote != data

They made the claim, but didn’t back it up with any numbers.

Hmm, Natwest has 1.5k reviews with much higher customer number than Monzo, where Monzo has 4k reviews. Just read the positive ones, they are written by 18 year olds that like cool apps…

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NatWest is written by 35-60 year olds who hate their bank.

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Oh wow :joy:

Yeah and? Monzo’s app is mostly the reason I have it as my sole bank :joy: It is literally a cool app

Not really the point I was going for there, did you read any of the negative ones like:

“SANTANDER sitting on my money for no reason and with no proper explanation!”

Natwest: “Awful company. Closed my account with no notification. And kept my money”

Fraud happens, accounts get frozen it happens across the board

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If only Monzo had published something discussing this topic:

Wish I hadn’t gone on Trustpilot now… getting loads of people with 1 review trying to review-bomb Monzo

How many 1 star reviews referring to “CS told me to go to a food bank!” do you reckon we’ll see in the next 24 hours?

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He’s not the messiah. :roll_eyes:

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I have to say, that’s an amazingly poor attitude. Where’s your sense of empathy? “I’m all right Jack”?

It’s in the interest of every Monzo customer to know if Monzo are behaving poorly, or not, and as Monzo customers we should be interested in a resolution of some kind.

Just because it didn’t happen to you should be irrelevent.

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I commented on their blog post a few weeks. Maybe I’m being naive but I’d rather see banks take their obligations seriously and fight against criminals laundering cash than ignore this stuff. If it results in my account being frozen as a false positive then fine. I have credit cards and access to funds elsewhere, it would be a pain but worth it.

You realise a lot of people live pay check to pay check and are unable to access credit? But as long as you are ok that is all that matters, right?

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