COVID-19 (Coronavirus)

So do you think the Pfizer vaccine, which would be used for children, should be thrown away? This vaccine is not generally suitable for 3rd world countries due to its storage requirements. It isn’t always black and white.

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I was asking for views, not medical advice.

That’s not how medicine works, or science in general for that matter.

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Use the Pfizer vaccines for affluent nations so they can distribute their stock of other vaccines to poorer nations that are more suitable for their infrastructure.

It says a lot that we should be discussing throwing away what is such a precious commodity in the first place.

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It is quite normal to ask questions and have discussions on a discussion board though isn’t it?

There’s more than just science in the decision, there’s a limited vaccine supply and politics and nationalism vs globalism also plays a part.

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Oh, i agree. If you want to expand the question out to encompass all of that then it’s a much more sensible question but much wider being a societal issue more than a medical one. That’s not where much of the debate here has been this far, though.

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Believe it or not, that’s what I was after.
Not just the medical reasons for and against, but the wider picture.
Personal reasons, ethics, the whole lot.

Please keep the replies coming :+1:

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Depends what age you were but if you were under 16 then legally they can’t go against the parents wishes

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Which I also said was bonkers!

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It’s assault if you did go against their wishes.

Exceptions are if it’s lifesaving or there’s a court order forcing it

The kids can always go to the gp at 16 and get them done

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@Rat_au_van you mentioned medical consent being 16.
I have no knowledge of this (and I assume you do) so could you explain why there is a difference in the ages?

I was under the impression that for most things in the UK, the age of consent was 18

Because that’s the law

You don’t want to have to go to a GP at 16 for a gynae problem and have your parents involved

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It’s pretty simple that’s the law, go look it up about the age for medical stuff.

Edit I got you the link to it

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Thanks for the flag @N26throwaway.

@Ivan1954 hopefully has come in with a question looking for genuine feedback and wouldn’t have came in with the intent to start a fight in the Topic.

The Topic itself has been closed before due to similar incidents and Code of Conduct warnings sent to those in breach. Let’s not go back down that route because although we’re in the stage of being taken out of lockdowns - the issue still remains and would be good to continue to speak about in a less heated way.

I think those willing to give their feedback have done so, it’s probably for the best that we move on.

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Speaking here as someone with full on phobia of needles

I’ve managed fainting and throwing up from injections in school. Cannot even watch them on TV

I hadn’t had a jab of anything for twenty years

I managed to make it through both my jabs unscathed and indeed feel my life spanning phobia has actually been very much helped by how organised and sudden it was both times and the lack of drama

Cannot speak for everyone in this position, but I wouldn’t have wanted a get out personally

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As a slight digression, I’m in on a regular basis for blood tests to make sure my medication isn’t harming me instead of helping.

I went to the hospital once to have it done as was easier just to show up. The nurse kept looking at me and then she’s like I’m calling for some help. Last time you was in you panicked and got argumentative and aggressive and then passed out.

News to me, ended up having a 5 minute argument with her about this, telling her to just stick the stupid needle in my arm and hurry up.

She ended up having to apologise for mistaking me for someone else :joy:

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Haha, great story. You can laugh about it now

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I don’t think there’s such a thing as a rational phobia…

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My pet tarantula says no.

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And there is the point.
What seems irrational to many of us is perfectly normal to those who have the phobia.
I empathise with anyone who has a real phobia of anything.

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