Best way to fully transfer to Monzo

Hey all :wave:

Myself and my wife have been using Monzo for a year or so and love it. We have a current account each, and a joint account for shared finances.

Currently, my salary goes into, and all of our monthly debits and standing orders come out of, a First Direct account. We transfer an amount from First Direct to Monzo each month for our monthly spending.

Iā€™m feeling like this is WAY more complicated than it should be, but i think Iā€™m right that we cannot have another joint account we could use to pay our monthly bills from.

Is this correct and, if so, is there a better way to use Monzo and ditch First Direct?

Long-winded, I know, but hereā€™s hoping!!

You can do a full switch to Monzo from the joint account then setup a pot for bills. Then you can force the direct debits to be billed from said pot.


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Thanks Aydan, so for clarityā€¦

I arrange my for my salary AND my direct debits/standing orders to go into my joint account. Then manually transfer the monthly amount I would need for my debits into the new pot, THEN tell Monzo to pay the debits from that pot.

Do I have that correct?

You can use the inbuilt salary sorter which you set how much goes into each pot :slight_smile: but yeah you have it correct.

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Thatā€™s exactly what we do. Several incomes per month into the Joint Account get ā€˜Salary Sortedā€™ into various places. One of them is the JA ā€˜Bills potā€™ into which amounts go into to cover all scheduled payments, standing orders and direct debits for that cycle (please note CPAā€™s like Spotify, Netflix, Prime, Xbox, etc. canā€™t be paid from the Bills pot and so are manually ā€˜paidā€™ from the Bills pot when they happen)

It works brilliantly. And almost fully automated too.

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Thanks for the low-down, thatā€™s all really helpful. I was a little hesitant at first to make the full switch, as it was unclear (from what I had read) as to whether Monzo was a profitable business or not. That seems to have changed, so Iā€™m feeling like a full transfer might now be the way to go.

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ā€˜Profitableā€™ is probably the wrong descriptor to decide to jump in to be #fullmonzo. Itā€™s a full-on bank like every other established bank. Less ā€˜high-streetā€™ and more ā€˜digitalā€™ but with more features.

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For sure David. Maybe, this feels different because it is very different from the banks Iā€™ve been used to in the past, and the fact that itā€™s 100% digital had caused me to be a little bit cautious. I work as a designer for digital companies, and Iā€™ve seen a few go under over the years.

Itā€™s just about getting used to something different, but Monzo over the past year has been good for us, hence the desire to go all with #fullmonzo!

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Weā€™d been using legacy banking for decades like everyone else and wanted something fresh. HSBC promised ā€˜connected bankingā€™ which was full of promises but never happened. In the end, thanks to the demise of the Supercard-by-Travelex travel card & app (which was outstanding at the time), we discovered the MondoMonzo beta prepaid card. Used that for a while for travelling, then it became a proper current account, followed by a Joint Account in late 2018. Weā€™ve been #fullmonzo since then.

During the last 6 years, the Monzo experience has grown and grown (Bills pots, Salary Sorting, Paid tiers, Trends reporting, Savings/Investments, Mortgage reporting, Cheque imaging :eyes:, etc., etc.) and few banking services can compete at the #fullmonzo level so far for us :+1:

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I was watching the ex CEO talking about the mondo ATM fees, Iā€™ve been wondering what the reason is for taking out thousands when you get abroad like he talked about

Did you use it like that? If so Iā€™m just curious what the idea behind it is, havenā€™t ever really taken cash out other than in Japan

It wasnā€™t the ATM fees (which the ATM providers can charge you regardless - usually 3EUR per cash withdrawal in the EU for example) - it was the really good exchange rate for spending on the card. Typically, it charged your Monzo card in pounds after having done the conversion at the near-perfect Mastercard wholesale rate.

So spending (in the local currency) was exchanged into pounds at a minimal cost.

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Thanks! Is that not how it works today? Mastercard rate with no commission I thought?

Spending on the card (in the local currency) - gives the least expensive rate.

Withdrawing cash using the card - the local ATM providers may (and usually do) charge you a cash withdrawal fee in addition to what you do/donā€™t get charged by your bank for the exchange of the local currency*

*NEVER choose to withdraw cash from an overseas ATM in GBP with the exchange rate given by the ATM provider - instead, choose to withdraw cash using local currency.

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Our monzo superhero :superhero:

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We recently did the switch too, our setup is slightly different, two personal accounts and one joint, salaries going into personal accounts and then the impressive salary sort feature to distribute enough money into the joint account to pay the bills.

As an aside, one annoying feature of the automated switch accounts feature (which is not the fault of Monzo) is it closes the source account. I have had my traditional account for decades and donā€™t want to lose this, so we ended up having to move all our salary and direct debits manually. A great feature of the switch would be an option to move all incomes and direct debits but leave the account open.

Moving the salary payment into joint is certainly easier because you can sort it into a ā€œbillsā€ pot and then pay ddā€™s from that pot. The way I have set mine up doesnā€™t work so well, I need the feature where I can salary sort from a personal account into a pot on a shared account, which I believe is a feature in the US but not the UK.

So in short, I think the way suggested in the thread is probably the easiest.

Some banks do allow a partial switch, which is payments etc but unsure if that covers salary redirection, and Iā€™m not sure youā€™re covered by the switch guarantee should something go wrong.

Virgin Money was one I think, and maybe Barclays?

But for the sake of an hour and wanting to keep the old account for reporting purposes, youā€™d need to do it manually for the majority.

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This is such a helpful conversation. Thanks all. But, to clarify, if I go all-in and ask Monzo to do the switch for me, does that also include the salary switch as well, or would I need to do this manually?

TIA

All payments into your old account will auto redirect to your new account for at least 2 years (possibly longer).

Good to know, thanks.

btw, it was a lot more than an hour, itā€™s stunning just how many DDā€™s we had setup that were active, in fact iā€™m dealing with what I think is the last one right now.

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Good time to make a cull for ones you donā€™t need :sweat_smile:

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