Would you spend your own money on a diesel car today?

Based on 18-30 being the initial target demographic I would say that’s reflected in forum users too so 90s-00s :baby:

With the driving age you would have to be late seventies/earlier eighties to have actually driven in the 90s, and it was still all about NA.

Sorry to disappoint, but I wasn’t. My first car even had a manual choke. :grimacing:

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Same but I was born in the eighties.

Mini Cooper - I had no idea what it did and was corrected by my Gran for calling it a ‘chalk’. (I assumed I was putting chalk in the engine…).

Ha, yes - the choke. Remember to push it back in after 4-5 mins otherwise you’ll flood the carb and it’ll start running like a pig with 3mpg.

My first car also had manual (non-powered) steering, windy-windows, see-through glass and a wheel at each corner. It ran on 4-star too, cough, cough.

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Oh good - some more golden [or should that be silver] oldies. As well as the choke don’t forget the starting handle. Blimey, how did we survive? R-

No disappoint. :rofl:

It wasn’t aimed at anyone, more a general assumption that with 18-30 demographic also being generation lease they wouldn’t have driven a turbocharged car from the 80s, 90s or 00s unless it was their parents old car or a dedicated car enthusiast.

I would say the next large demographic, 30-50, male and techy most likely to have an IT related job would have most likely experienced the now laggy (compared to today’s standards) and sat in a petrol turbo where you would plant it and count…

One Mississippi…
Two Mississippi…
Three Mississippi…
Four Mississippi…
Five Mississippi…
Six Mississippi…

and you’ll be off. :smile:

Or you had the good fortune to floor a Saab 95 from 50mph, when that bad-boy turbo spun-up in less than a second and boosted, you accelerated to 80/90mph like :poop: off a shovel. Faster than a Testarossa could!

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This is in danger of being a nostalgia thread.

I think I’m going to get the El-Born for my commute and then get a old school NA V6 like a R32 or 130i for the weekend.

I wonder if in 20yrs petrol will need to bought by the can that you tip in by hand. Ten quid a litre. Petrol/Diesel only allowed on private land and racetracks :thinking:

:child: What grandad you drove a car with a combustion engine? :t_rex:

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Currently, yes. Travel a lot for work and live in a rural area.

In a few years, maybe not?

I’m now on AutoTrader…there goes the day.

Only 13 manual 130i and 70 R32s nationwide.

Only £5-8k to pick one up, but you’ll need another £5k ready to fix :slightly_smiling_face:

MK4 :+1:

Yes, definitely.

There are millions of commercial vehicles around the world, as well as hundreds of thousands in the UK alone that use diesel. Coaches, LGVs, Vans and specialist vehicles such as cranes, cherrypickers, concrete pumpers, support and maintenance vehicles.

There are some that are moving across to hybrid options. I have seen a few urban electric LGVs but for the most part, diesel is still king in the market. Even if cars move away completely from diesel, then commerical vehicles will continue.

For example, as an LGV driver myself, from our Midlands base we cover up to Grimsby and Doncaster, across to Skegness, down to Cambridgeshire and across to Oxfordshire and the entirety of South and Mid Wales.

Electrics could not survive that distance and the company are not in a place where they can install electric charging points or have the option to change batteries if that were possible.

Then of course, because we transport food, at either chill (2-4c) and frozen (-22c), there are diesel fridges that have to run to keep the temperatures correct. I can’t see that being on an electric system.

Our urban vehicles do share the vehicle engine for such things but the engine has to be running and this only happens on the rigids. The artics don’t always have that option fitted.

I do forsee running diesel trucks for at least 5 years, but I am sure after that they will have found a solution. By the way. Our trucks do about 8-10mpg and run on white (regular) diesel for on the road, and have red diesel for the fridge engines, usually in seperate belly tanks.

If yes. What diesel would you buy?

Decent 320d auto, 80k miles for £8k. About 24 grand of value off in six years. Decent blend of speed and efficiency, boot space for kids stuff.

Of a 2015 1.6 Leon ST auto with all the gadgets for £6k! About 20k wiped off in 5yrs. Shame it’s euro 5.

I’ve driven a variety of vehicles and have found that for MPG, the diesels are better. I do a lot of miles as well, so I’d prefer the 30mpg option over 15mpg option for the petrol equivelent of my car.

Although to be fair I drive a 4x4, and for a variety of reasons I won’t go into.

If I had to move away from diesel I’d probably end up with a hybrid as there is no where locally I can plug in to charge an electric vehicle.

Think Hydrogen cells will win out on the commercial transportation front. Much simpler, quicker and cleaner for business use.

I would, as they’re still cheap, versatile and efficient (to name a few).

There are plenty of years yet to pay it off before electric cars market and infrastructure catches up.

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No

yes, as they are cheap for a decent car, we as a family run 2 VW scirocco 20 tdi, and are really nippy, obviously not as nippy as the R type version (im waiting for the electric version out soon!)

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Not that I like average red cars but on my searches found a modern efficient warm hatch diesel found this for just £6k :upside_down_face: (list price of £23,000 when new)

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/specs/detail/?v=MSEACLEO0208

2015 Leon 2.0 SE (Tech Pack) DSG
148 bhp
83,000 miles (16.6 a year)
£30 tax
64.2 mpg (about 50 real MPG)
0-60 in 8.4s
Euro 6

That seems pretty decent spec wise.

Could run it for a couple years and still get £4k from a buyer I reckon.

So essentially costing 2,000/24 = £83 month

This seems a cracker too.

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/specs/detail/?v=M118240

2015 A200 Sport Auto
134 bhp
79,338 miles (15.8 year)
£20 tax
68.9 mpg (about 51 real MPG)
0-60 in 9.7s
Euro 6

Uses the 2.1 so safe and easy remap +25-50 bhp like the 220 starting 168bhp

I’ll stop now. :laughing: