Useless traditional banks. šŸ˜’

Expecting a regular payment to hit Monzo today from NatWest. Apparently they donā€™t process payment at weekend, so Iā€™ll have to wait until Tuesday, after the bank holiday.

Why the hell should that be? Itā€™s done by computers, itā€™s not like a cashier gets a bundle of notes out of the safe and schleps over to Monzo HQ.

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Sorry you mean was it a cash transfer from a branch

If depends on the payment type. If it was a Bacs credit then it wouldnā€™t be cleared to your account by any bank until Tuesday as all Bacs members follow the Bacs processing calendar.

Natwest do process faster payments immediately even over weekends however.

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And why doesnā€™t Bacs work weekends? Which bit is not automated?

Hey, gotta give those computers a day off some time! On a more serious note, this is why modern fintech disrupting the banking space is a good thing. Itā€™s stagnant

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BACS only runs Monday to Friday and not on bank holidays

2018 processing calendar: https://www.bacs.co.uk/documentlibrary/bacs_processing_calendar_2018.pdf

2019 processing calendar:

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Why though?

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BACS was structured around the working day principle, l think itā€™s more batch orientated than event (payment orientated) - happy to be corrected. Important to note that CHAPS is also linked to working days, so you may pay for expeidated clearance but it wonā€™t happen if you miss working day guidelines. Although CHAPS is mainly used for high value transactions.

Iā€™d be surprised if NatWest sent via BACS rather than Faster Payments which works 24/7 (system availability permitting). Although l did have an instance of being told that the Monzo sort code wasnā€™t eligible for Faster Payments a few weeks back so possibly may have happened for youā€¦

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This is taken from GoCardless about Direct Debits, but it applies to BACs payments too. The ā€œDesigned in the 1970ā€™sā€ is probably a great hint of why it takes 3 working days :joy: .

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https://gocardless.com/direct-debit/timings/

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I never thought l would use this word in this forumā€¦ Prehaps the best description is ā€˜rustā€™

@anon23935806

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Rust and maybe punched cards also. :wink:

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The reason BACS is 3 day and working day only is because vans with paper Instructions and Direct Debits would literally criss cross the country. It was the quickest way to do it back then :see_no_evil:

Many traditional banks donā€™t process Standing Orders (or SOPs) on non-working days becauseā€¦well, it has always been done that way. NatWest will process a SIP 24/7 I believe.

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Look on the upside. If it ran 24/7 some of you wouldnā€™t be paid until Monday.

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