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As expected, it seems Santander will eventually phase out all of the 123 branding. No idea why they have to wait so long to do so though (this message has been on the page for a while).

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Santander has launched a new Santander Edge credit card, with a slightly different design from their other cards (arrow in the top corner and different shaped notch).

Santander Edge Credit Card | Santander UK

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I assume it is for accessibility purposes to make it extremely clear which way the card goes, which the notch itself doesn’t (if you didn’t know, the notch could be at the side that you insert). An arrow is the clearest way. I think it does obviously impact the design, but for accessibility purposes, I don’t mind. The white on the arrow also fits in with the colours of the card anyway so it isn’t too bad.

I was interested, until I saw the monthly fee :man_facepalming:

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Break even point for year 1 would be £150 monthly spend. Unfortunately therefore not worth it for me, but would love to see something similar with Chase as an introductory offer!

I still think it’s a fairly competitive, but agree you probably need to be spending enough to get the fee back.

If you were spending £1k/mo, you’d get £15/mo back in year one and spend £3/mo just to have the card, so you’re net £12 better off.

With Amex platinum everyday cashback credit card, you’d get £5/mo cashback.

In year 2, the Santander card would get you £10, cost you £3, so net £7 gain, so still better than Amex.

The notch position is specifically designed to be at the bottom on the right–hand edge. Its positioning denotes which way round the card operates, and has done for years. It’s why the notch isn’t in the centre of the edge.

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I know that, but a random person getting the card for the first time won’t. An arrow is a clearer way of doing that.

What does the arrow do that the chip doesn’t do?

That’s the most obvious this way there could be.

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Maybe a random person who has never seen or used a bank card and cannot see or feel the chip, yes.

Cards approved by the RNIB don’t have arrows.

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Forgot this forum cared so little for accessibiliy.

There is no reason to not have this arrow which will help some people which is clearly a good thing, even if it makes the design a tiny bit worse.

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There are other factors to consider than just those that RNIB will look at.

If you care to search, you’ll see I care very much about accessibility, and if you know me, you’d understand why.

And if you care to re-read my post, I’m not arguing for taking the arrow away.

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You can see and feel a chip and the notch. You can only see the arrow. Completely pointless addition.

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I wasn’t particularly targeting it at you. It’s just in general, this forum has been incredibly rubbish when it comes to accessibility features, with some quite dismissive and uncaring views. Even the comment above is saying it is pointless despite it having clear point to it.

It’s about accessibility. Not just an arrow. Accessibility is important.

Anyway, I don’t want this to be an argument. It is clear an arrow is easier to see and understand than a notch or the chip for certain people. You might not care that people have different needs to you, but for some, an arrow I’ll help. Therefore, this arrow is far from pointless.

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Imagine discussing good card design on the card design thread. Heaven forfend.

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8 days later and you’re getting angry and saying that people don’t care about accessibility because people dare suggest a painted arrow isn’t a big improvement.

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You’re right. Lost my way somewhat :wink:

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Sometimes get a bit lost who I’m meant to be replying to :laughing:

Anyway, people will know themselves who it is referring to. It’s pretty clear to me who values accessbility and who doesn’t.

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