I much prefer iMessage to WhatsApp.
I use iMessage for group chats if there’s no poor people otherwise you can very easily just use WhatsApp.
I don’t get the big deal
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How benevolent of you 
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This is why with remarks and an attitude like that but in the USA it’s this but worse so when a solution comes out people jumped on it. I know the real solution is just to buy an iPhone/pad and I would actually agree but when it gets this much hype people will of course try it.
For what it’s worth I’m enjoying beeper cloud a lot. Absolutely 0 interest on iMessage so haven’t activated it but works great on all my devices and scheduling messages on any service is handy.
Pretty good listen.
The drama of the unified messaging app sounds great, but the road to get there isn’t going to be smooth.
I wish more people would use Signal. Instead I appear to be forever doomed to be left out of group chats because not wanting Meta to have access to my data makes me the weird one. Go figure.
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I’ve never had signal or telegram, they will try and probably fail.
Ain’t nobody saying Signal me or Telegram me that I know.
Unclear on what you mean about privacy, as WhatsApp chats are encrypted to a way not even they can access the chats.
Help me understand the issue?
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WhatsApp:
Signal:
There is no reason for WhatsApp to make such a data grab. As Signal shows, most of what it wants access to is not necessary to provide the messaging service. Plus, as N26 says, Meta is a big issue.
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Fairs. I’ve never had Signal, and it’ll likely be of no use because of my crowd.
I suggested it earlier as well, as unlikely as it is sadly.
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Thankfully most of my non-iPhone friends have moved to Signal now. The only exception are some work chats that I need. But I rarely remember to check it 
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I’m likely the exception here but I’m not a fan of Signal or iMessage.
Main issue with Signal is just keeping devices in sync and not losing chat history. I just logged in to it again and I’m basically starting as a new user. It may be secure, but it’s damn annoying.
With iMessage it’s the poor general experience. It’s rubbish for groups chats as you always start at the bottom, rather than where you left off. The limited reactions are annoying and I still hate the way it threads replies.
The fact I barely use iMessage thankfully makes this moot, but I’d find it infuriating to have SMSs mixed in with my main chats, given the content stream of authentication texts that jam up my inbox.
If you’re a security absolutist then they’re the clear winners. But if you want a great chat experience they’re at the back of the pack IMHO.
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Opposition. But in the grand scheme of things, probably valueless.
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I can’t pretend to know the technical details of it all, but why shouldn’t apple protect their technology by shutting down external access?
One of the things I most value about iOS is the ability for good third party apps, but a stable and locked down OS including how basics like messaging and calls work. I dislike this move to make it more android and open, as it’s the thing that drove me away from Android in the first place.
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I agree totally. You pick your platform and go with it.
The issue here is that the Beeper Mini debacle is just another side-show which highlights the fact that regulators (esp. the EU) don’t like how Apple has locked down so much.
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On this, while I can’t say I’m fully “dissapearing messages” or “signal v telegram” I do feel they really shouldn’t, it causes a poorer experience for all in the end.
I know it’s controversial, but I liked lightning. Now the move to USB-C and the need to buy a whole new load of cables, simply because a regulator didn’t like that everything wasn’t the same as everything else.
Plus, iMessage is great for family chat’s where we’re all on iOS. It’s better than whatsapp, which is too non OS specific to really harness its features.
In this case, competition doesn’t drive innovation, in my experience.
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announced RCS support just before the reprieve.
Multiple regulators in several different countries/regions. Not just the EU.
Of course, you only need new cables if/when you upgrade.
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And once you’ve got the new cables, you should be sorted for a good long time. Seeing as part of the point is to reduce waste as well as improve interoperability.
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