Meet the next generation: Monzo for Under 16s šŸŽ‰

This is monzo remember :sweat_smile: it’s nice to be different, and likely an easier way for them to implement the product.

I wouldn’t say it’s nice to be different if it makes the product potentially worse

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It doesn’t make the product worse in any way?

I opened nationwide accounts for my children and that is done in the same way. I have to pay tax on their interest. Would be nice if they’d done this differently so we didn’t. At the moment the interest on their savings is so small the tax isn’t really an issue but it may become so in which case I’d have to keep their savings elsewhere.

Can I ask why you believe you need to pay tax on your children’s interest?

Unless they receive more than Ā£100 in interest from money given by their parents, this shouldn’t be the case.

Like Monzo explained above for their savings accounts, the accounts aren’t really in the children’s names, but the parents, so technically/legally, the interest is in the parents names, and so counts towards your personal allowance. Same for the Nationwide (future saver accounts I think they are).

  • **The parent or guardian who opened the Under 16s account legally owns the money:**Under 16s Savings are in the parent or guardian’s name. So any interest earned on Savings will normally count towards the main parent or guardian’s taxable income.

I believe you are incorrect.

Other financial institutions including Nationwide treat children’s accounts as ā€œbare trustsā€ with the parent as the trustee

ā€˜Bare trust’ is a legal term which describes how the money in the account is owned. Although the account will be in your name, the money in the account is held by you on behalf of the child you are saving for. This means the money in the account belongs to the child and when they reach the age of 18 (or 16 if they live in Scotland), the child can request that you pay the money to them.

This means any interest earned counts against the child’s personal allowance not the parents (unless the interest from capital provided by the parent is more than Ā£100).

Hence, no tax is usually due on children’s accounts.

This is why I am asking why Monzo are doing something different..

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It does if the parents are having to pay tax (or use some of their own PSA) when that is not the case with childrens accounts at other financial institutions.

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Even the link there says:

The parent will have to pay tax on all the interest if it’s above their own Personal Savings Allowance.

So the child may get Ā£100, but if you’ve exceeded your Ā£1000/500/0 allowance, you pay interest on it all.

I believe you have misunderstood the tax rules.

Children are entitled to their own £12,570 personal tax allowance each year and would not pay tax on interest under this amount.

The reason for the Ā£100 rule is as an anti-avoidance measure to prevent a child’s personal allowance being used by parents of children aged under 18 to avoid tax.

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I took it as savings allowances not working tax allowances, my bad.

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According to this page:

Which covers bare trusts which is how Nationwide say their future saver is set up, the trustee (i.e.. parent) not the beneficiary (the child) is responsible for paying income tax on the trust income:

ā€The trustees pay Income Tax on the trust income by filling out a Trust and Estate Tax Return.ā€

Which aligns which a letter I received from Nationwide when I opened the accounts.

But does that actually mean that the trustee pays the income tax but the income tax is calculated against the child’s income?

This probably isn’t the right place for it here but if that is the case then I’ll leave their savings in Nationwide rather than moving some/all to Monzo.

As previously stated above, the interest is the childs. You don’t need to pay tax on it as a parent unless the Ā£100 rule applies.

That is why every child account that I can think of (apart from Monzo) is structured as a bare trust.

Some articles you may find useful:

Point 5 on https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/child-savings-tax-free/#teaching

https://www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/savings-accounts-for-children#Tax-on-children-s-savings

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Even Revolut’s new partnership with Clearbank for their new Teen and Kid savings accounts have done it right

Teens (16 - 17): Interest goes towards their own allowance

Children (a under 16): Bare Trust as mentioned above

Why are Monzo so behind here and unable to keep up and do the right thing, as others have said plenty of other high street banks who do the above also

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as someone who has an under 16 account for my child but keeps the majority of his money in my own savings pot this is defiently making the product better for me. This allows him to see and access his own savings.

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Thank you to Monzo staff for unflagging after being falsley flagged by the community I’m guessing because of my mention of a competitor

I think it’s the AI bot or some petty :poop: again.

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@AlanDoe the new system being too touchy :joy:

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Still making sure it’s working to the best of it’s ability :folded_hands:

Thanks for the heads up

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