Leaving work without working 2 weeks notice?

Hi guys,

I need abit of advice, I informed my employer about my change of circumstances just after the start of September. I asked my supervisor if I was able to go part time or not which the response was he would need to speak to his manager. He got back to me the next day and said I would be able to go part time and that I just need to bring in my uni timetable so they can work around it. I received my timetable and emailed it to my supervisor on the 15th of September and started university on the 23rd.

14 days later and I heard nothing back, so I asked my other supervisor if she had heard anything about my uni situation and she was basically like heard what. So I said about my timetable and she said she’s heard nothing but everyone has been emailed my timetable and she basically said that her manager doesn’t need to offer me any hours as I made myself unavailable even though her manager was the one that said I could go part time. She then said nights would be no good for me and suggested I go onto the afternoon shift which is 2-10 and less money.

I go back into work tonight so hopefully something has been sorted out but by the sounds of things they don’t give a toss. By being told I could go part time prevented me from handing in my notice and working my period which this could of all been done before i started uni but I was assured that I could go part time.

If it isn’t sorted out by tonight I would like to hand in my notice with immediate effect do I have an argument here or not?

Handing your notice in is a pleasantry.

You can walk out of the door whenever you want, you won’t get paid for your remaining time, you will struggle to get a P45 and won’t get a good reference.

The main thing is a reference, if you choose to leave you may not get a reference (They can’t give you a bad reference just a good one / none)

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That is not true. They have to give a factual reference, and to be able to prove anything negative is true (or potentially face a lawsuit).

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Notice is usually but not always defined as up to x amount.

If they can cover your shifts and you can leave now then you can usually leave on a neutral note.

When you talked about going part time I assume you did this in writing by email so you have proof? As you can use that in your favour.

It’s usually good to leave on good terms, but if it’s just a dead end job it’s not the end of the world if you don’t. Just don’t expect a reference.

There is no legal obligation to provide a reference in most jobs, but yes they must be factual.

Depends on the employer, mine requires 1 week for every year you work there.
Work the notice period if you want a hope of getting a reference.

Guys I’ve already been given a new job that’s fits around my university schedule so I’m not bothered about a reference. At the end of the day they shouldn’t have said yes to going part time in the first place if they couldn’t sort it out in a reasonable time. I work night shifts there 9:30 until 6 am not getting home until 7am and starting uni for 9am, it’s really not possible working that 2 weeks notice with the pattern I have. When asking to go part time it was a face to face conversation so they wouldn’t be no evidence to go off other than me emailing my time table to them.

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To play devils avocado…

Have you tried speaking to or e-mailing the original supervisor and manager? In a previous job I had to write rotas for 40 odd people where at least 80% of them had uni or some other time commitments and it could be a bit of a nightmare. While I had the best of intentions of making it work for everyone there was the odd occassion I forgot make a note of someones availability changing or just gave the wrong shifts in error.

Just seen this after making my post - congratulations on the new job!

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well since you’ve got a new job and she said

i would walk

Exactly that comment was basically implying I could lose my position all together

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so you accept they can also be negative now?

Just quit without notice. As others have said, notice is primarily a pleasantry and important for a reference however the worst case scenario of not serving out your notice is that an employer could sue you for breach of contract… however when you consider the costs involved and the potential award – the cost of hiring someone to replace you for your notice period at short notice – it’s almost a certainty that they won’t take it further.

The only time you’d ever expect a company to pursue someone for not respecting their notice period is in professional jobs where the hiring process is long and the costs of a contractor are high and even then it’s unlikely. I am assuming you’re in a retail job, in which case I’d bet a lot of money that if you just stop showing up you’d simply never hear from them again.

If the management at your employer can’t even manage to accept notice, they don’t have the capacity to sue you even if they wanted to.

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So, this sounds EXACTLY the situation I face in September 2000. I was working for a business travel agency, and at the end of the summer I was persuaded to going to University. I was only able to give work 1 week’s notice, and they were not particularly happy with me. My manager told me that I should post pone the course, or ask the University to postpone for 3 weeks. (Hmm…!)
I did offer to work around my timetable too, whilst working my notice, including of an evening or weekend, but they did not take me up on this offer. However, what was interesting that they published my intention of leaving to the entire office over email (as was usual procedure), but despite me telling them what my leaving date would be they proceeded to give a date calculated on a month’s notice - so I constantly had to tell people, ‘no, I’m leaving at the end of this week’.
Not only this, but I was hauled into the directors office to explain myself, and also why I was coming to work in a suit and not my uniform. I calmly informed the director that I had already previously sought permission from my manager, and if they wanted their uniform returned dry cleaned before I left… This all happened in a glass office in front of 100+ staff and people could see me being shouted at. I was 21 at the time, but I was very proud of myself being able to stand up for myself.
Luckily I also did not need the reference. I had another job on the side, and I had casual employment during my time at University, and could always use a reference from my tutor should I have needed on.
Btw, best decision I ever made to go to University, and more importantly leave that job (with reduced notice) and with my dignity in tact. My life has now taken the best direction, and I have the career that I love.
Good luck to you, and I I hope that this is also the best move for you too.

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Pretty bad management. As a Service Manager, I would be embarrassed if I left one of my colleagues hanging like that. Give them two weeks notice, 14 days no response should also be mentioned in your resignation letter. All the best with uni.

Funny enough I am the same age as you was when this happened to you! the job isn’t something I’m going to spend the rest of my life in and I don’t see why I should jeopardise my studies trying to work around them. I have called in sick tonight as I do have university in the morning and it was just impossible to get in at 7 am and leave back out at 8:30am, my supervisor didn’t mention nothing on the phone about my university situation when I called in so I’m guessing there’s no update.

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Thank you! I will be mentioning that in my notice.

Some of the stories sound awful, I feel sorry for you that you went through that.

Working your notice is entirely optional. You’re well within your rights to resign with immediate affect - the only situation that I’d do this in is if I really had to and getting a reference letter in the future wouldn’t be necessary at all. Financially it makes no difference as you’ll be paid for whatever you have worked up until the point of resignation.

Thank you

I almost did this recently after leaving a great job due to issues with senior management, but ended up sticking it out. The last week was horrible, but I didn’t want to give them anything to hold against me as I wanted to be able to get the same job elsewhere (I did :tada:) and may have needed that reference.
I ended up using someone else I’d worked with, but still glad I’d ended on reasonable terms just in case.

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