ISA Account

Is there any updates to when we might be able to get ISA with monzo. I guessing it will be from a third party

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No idea but cash ISAs are a bit shit atm

This seems to be best atm 0.65

A normal savings account is slightly better 0.75

Thereā€™s always regular savers to try first but you usually need to have a current account too unless itā€™s a BS (1.55) like this.

Also they obv tie you into a year before you can access it.

2.75% but you have the pain of creating a HSBC account.

ISAs are tax free though, some of us actually need to put money into ISAs!

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Plum letā€™s you have a stock and bonds isa with a good rate but the money is at risk

Investments shouldnā€™t be confused with savings! Different things for different purposes.

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But since 2016 with the introduction of the PSA, most wonā€™t pay tax so unless youā€™ve got a big stash handy, ISAs arenā€™t favourable if you can find a saver paying better interest (and most will).

Mind you - no rates are exactly attractive right now of courseā€¦

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/personal-savings-allowance/

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You donā€™t actually need that big a stash especially if you are a higher rate tax payer. Also depends on your future needs, given the annual ISA cap. As I said still plenty of us who specifically need ISAs

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Yes, yes, we get it, youā€™re loaded. You can stop now.

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I really wish I was quoteunquote ā€˜loadedā€™.

If you want to invest create a T212 account and choose the Stocks and Shares ISA. If you and anymore reading this, send me a PM and I can send a referral for a free share. :wink:

Even picking boring very low risk ETFs youā€™ll be smashing any savings. Just play with money you can afford to potentially lose. I personally keep the bare minimum in savings.

I also looked at doing some crypto stuff but think I missed the boat on that

Crypto will always be around, just have a variety of coins. Just donā€™t dive in with huge amounts initially, get a feel for it, and be prepared for a rollercoaster. I would learn stocks first but thereā€™s no reason not to dabble with both. With anything high risk, high reward you probably donā€™t want to much of your portfolio like that.

You could always pick an ETF like BTCE

BTCE is 100% physically backed by Bitcoin stored in institutional-grade custody, giving investors a convenient way to get exposure to Bitcoin. BTCE is fully fungible with Bitcoin, is centrally cleared, and structured for investor protection.

Although itā€™s never a great idea to chase when itā€™s so over bought.

Anyway for cash ISA that Ford Money I think is one of the best currently, worth checking on MSE.

Even if youā€™re a

  • which most folk arenā€™t - you still get to have Ā£500 in interest before tax. Ā£500 in interest at these current rates amounts to a shed-load of principal.

My point was that

and currently people donā€™t need to fixate on the need to use ISAā€™s. (But if youā€™ve been building savings over years, youā€™d be a mug to mess with them :flushed:).

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Sure, I think we agree on that. Iā€™d also add thereā€™s other reasons ISAs might be sensible, eg you are expecting a large inheritance or tax free lump sum in the not so distant future which would push you into the interest tax brackets.

So they are far from a redundant product, if not as suitable for as many people as they once were.

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Say you came into Ā£20,000 and maxed out this years allowance by dumping into say that Ford flexible ISA.

20,000*1.0065 = Ā£130

Twenty thousand pounds sitting there for a year to make Ā£130.

You can get that from a CASS switch.

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Well, youā€™d make an extra 39p from compounding :grin:

But also you can structure savings to get more than 0.65%, thereā€™s no need to leave it all in instant access.

What you shouldnā€™t do, though, is mistake investment returns for savings interest and start moving savings over to investments for higher rates. Thereā€™s clearly a place for investments, but an investment account just isnā€™t a savings account.

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Yeah I donā€™t think anyone has suggested that savings and investments are the same. Capital is at risk.

Also itā€™s not compounded btw itā€™s AER. So you would get exactly Ā£130 for year 1 if you were crazy enough to leave Ā£20k sitting there.

I donā€™t know, I feel like someone somewhere suggested using a stocks and shares ISA instead of a savings ISA. Probably misremembering that. But just wanted to make it clear that would not be very good advice because they are different products for different things.

:roll_eyes:

OP mentioned they understood money is at risk with investments.

:point_up_2: and that was enough for anyone reading along.

These are all available options, everyone needs to make their own decision or get a financial advisor. How much they put into savings and how much they invest is entirely personal.

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