In more Flex related info - I paid off my first Flex’d payment as of Thursday last week
Got a mix of 3, 6 and 12 month payment plans and the visibility in my opinion is pretty great. Yet to use the virtual card but was able to load it up to Google Pay with no issue. The temptation to try it out and treat myself to something is strong.
Game keep having the PS5 go live but in bundles only, which are as above £571 lowest.
I’d prefer console only tbh but was curious.
Split over X months, flex should understand that would be affordable surely? As it would only need to accommodate the first monthly repayment, not the full balance; when assessing the total repayable?
Otherwise you could have a purchase for £120,000 split over 12,000 easily affordable £10 monthly payments.
At some point any credit company need to go “Right this is customer X’s overall limit”. It isn’t just what you can afford monthly. If it were, all my credit limits would be insanely high.
But you’re not within budget at the start. That’s the key.
I don’t think it’s fair to say it’s “not flexible enough” as you’ll always have people trying to push the boundaries. They have to have a cut off at some point.
I think the point here is that it’s really difficult (if not impossible) to actually reach your approved credit limit with Flex.
If you’ve got a £500 credit limit, you should definitely be able to Flex something worth £571, just the product as it currently stands isn’t smart enough to only offer repayment terms that keep you under your credit limit.
Funnily enough, if the store allowed you to do this, you would be able to flex both transactions with your £500 limit.
I see what you mean, and I’ve had a think about it, and I agree it’s an odd thing when you think about it but then maybe there is a logistical reason why they can’t do it.
I am thinking of it in the same way that if I get a mobile contract and choose to pay more upfront I can get a more expensive phone - O2 might internally say “he can have up to £900 loaned to him” but if I say I’ll pay £500 upfront then they will allow me to get a phone worth £1,400 because of this.
I just don’t know how it would work, practically. It seems to stem from the initial payment being taken at the point of purchase, which means 1/3 of the purchase isn’t a loan, it’s you paying upfront.
My only guess is something like section 75 where the full purchase would be covered and makes Monzo lives easier challenging something like that.
There’s room for improvement with flex and overall it’s a good product, but the things mentioned above probably need some attention.
If flexing something and the first payment isn’t due for a month from purchase then I can understand.
The point of never actually being able to use your full credit limit baffles me, unless Monzo intends to also make this a standard credit card facility over time.
A question for @TheoGibson if he’s still around these here parts:
I know that you’ve got a to do list as long as your arm, but have you thought long term about exposing any data or analytics on Flex use to users, maybe via Trends?
Things I’m thinking about:
What’s my average amount of credit at any one time?
is my credit use lumpy or continuous? Is there any pattern to it (e.g. for Christmas) that’d help me financially plan?
what merchants or categories do I tend to Flex?
which plan do i pick and how much on average do I spend on interest? What’s my average APR?
You only need to pay some of any purchase on a credit account for it to qualify for S75. You can pay £1 of a £4000 holiday on your credit card and you’re covered for the whole thing.