If you put £10k on a traditional credit card the minimum payment is 2.5% (I checked my Lloyds card), but the longest you can pay Flex back over is 24 months, which is just over 4%
£10k with Lloyds = £250 per month
£10k with Flex = £416.67 per month plus interest
I wouldn’t bet against a 36/48 period coming next.
What interest rate have you used there? Or is that before interest is added?
I just can’t quite understand how I’ve seen monthly repayments over £300 for a third of the maximum now being allowed. But I have seen it, so it exists!
It must be done some way to increase the monthly payments a lot though.
In my case, £3,400 over 24 months in total is pre-interest £141 but the monthly repayments are at £310 (appreciate they do go down over time but not a vast amount).
Which is why I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility to be approaching £1,000 monthly payments for a £10,000 limit.
I’m definitely not smart enough to work things like this out.
More maths, I’ve ended up with this over a few posts now, let me try and put it together…
I’ve used the Flex calculator above and this one from Barclays. and paying back the minimum with Barclays and setting Flex to the longest currently available, 24 months.
The difference will be that on Flex the minimum payment is currently the greater of 1. a 24 month term rounded up to the nearest whole number or 2. £2 per month.
So (with no interest for simplicity) if you have one transaction which is £100 and another which is £10 - you’re monthly payment amount will be:
100/24 = 4.16 rounded up to £5
10 / 24 = 0.4 rounded up to £2 (because of the £2 minimum)
This is £7 which is 7% of your total balance (£110).
Just making sure nothing personal on it; I don’t think there is.
So while the amounts do go down each month I can’t imagine using nearly £6k more would only be £100 more a month.
There was an image here but it felt weird given its not mine, even if nothing personal was showing. Anyway it showed a £307 monthly repayment if you’re nosy like that.
Granted I don’t use Flex, and part of it is the repayments are clear but not clear at the same time (as in; I know how much I’m paying each month but it’s not the easiest to figure out how much you’ll be paying overall prior to adding a purchase, much like right now!)
Well there will probably be things that are less than 24 months in that they wouldn’t spread over 24 months but I don’t know what transactions are on there, just that it’s set to 24 months default.
If I borrowed everything all of the available balance on my credit cards the minimum payment would be more than my take home pay.
Not saying that this makes it better but Monzo have a long, long way to go before they become anything like the credit card companies!
I don’t actually mind the upper limit, it really just depends who they’ll actually lend it to. A 2k limit offered to someone on minimum wage is much worse than 10k offered to someone on 100k
I got the offer for £10k and grabbed it, flex is a very good product and I get a decent enough interest rate compared to the market rates if I ever wanted to stretch a payment.
Didnt you just insta sign up for a chase credit card with a £8k limit?
Chase have started on what appears to be a £10k cap and I dont recall much about it being immoral or predatory in that thread. It may be 0% for 18 months right now but the chase interest rate looks to be over 10% higher than my monzo one (not been offered chase yet but then I only used them for the high interest rate until recently and the £15 a month).
I just find it interesting to see the varied response to monzo doing something over chase doing something a few days earlier although I may have missed your posts about chase as that thread moved a bit fast at times (hate mega threads)
I would highly doubt someone 2 days ago went and just hit a button without having done a lot of prepp and checks/maths (for their own liquidity) in the background weeks beforehand.