Google+ shut after massive data leak


#1

Remember that huge social network that all your friends were on?

Yeah, me neither.

Anyway, Google is finally killing off Google+ for consumers, and keeping it as a social network for businesses.

The data leak is… Hefty (well, potentially) - Can’t say this is exactly a shock!


(Simon B) #2

:pensive:

The public feed may not be super active, but I run and moderate two large community groups in there with thousands of members that are incredibly active.

Unfortunately, I guess I’ll have to move them all to Facebook.


(Brexit Day Is Gonna Be Shamayzing.) #3

Add it here


(Jack) #4

Personally I’m glad it’s gone, found it very annoying as they use to push it down your throat all the time.

I don’t want to use it so stop trying to get me to!


#5

I’m surprised it lasted as long as it did!


#6

I don’t think I ever knew someone else who used it to be honest.

It’s things like this which make me reluctant to use Google services - Outside of Mail and Search, they throw so many things out there, that just never stick.

Half the time, they are actually decent services (Google Wave was very cool), but tend to lack adoption, and Google love to kill a service whenever they want.


(Dan Mullen) #7

Maps, Photos, Drive, Docs, Sheets, Keep, Translate… a fair few hits amongst those misses!

I know what your saying though, I remember being gutted when they pulled the personalised Google home page!


#8

Yeah, no doubt they’ve made some things that are indispensable to a lot of people.

I personally use:

Maps (trying to use Apple maps more though).
Sheets
Search
Translate whenever I need to.

I’ve often wanted to stick to one of their messaging apps, but they seem to change with the wind, and people just don’t end up sticking with one.


(Simon B) #9

Google pretty much always roll the best parts of the tech into other things when this happens though. Google Docs as we know it today contains some of the best technology pioneered within Wave.

I think Google+ was actually a massive success, and I’ll explain why. This is my opinion but from what I’ve learned and observed, this is what happened.

The idea that Google+ the consumer product social network was what Google wanted was somewhat of a red herring. Sure - they would have been happy for it succeed, but the lack of resources put into it over the last 4-5 years points to the fact that it did it’s job. I’d argue that G+ did it’s job within 2 years of launching.

Before Google+ what many folks might not remember is that most Google services were silo’d and independent of each other. Nobody used an account for Search or Maps. Gmail was a different account to YouTube. Amongst other things. There wasn’t a centrally linked “Google Account” like there is now.

More importantly, none of these accounts were fundamentally linked to user identity. This is why Google caught flack for initially forcing users to use their real name on Google+.

Over the course of the launch, Google+ became your Google account. YouTube then became linked to the Google account via Google+ etc. This went on for years before they were relaxed. Literally maybe 4 or 5 years between introducing these policies, “real name” verifications, etc, and then relaxing the policies.

By that time, having a centralised Google account that was linked to your identity became a de-facto thing for most users. It became the norm, just like with Facebook. The Google+ system became used as a platform for signing in to other websites to verify the account just like with Facebook.

Once that became the norm, and all formerly disparate Google services were centrally tied together by way of Google+, the job was done. The “social network” part could have been put to pasture right then and there, because it wasn’t the aim behind the project.


#10

For major European languages, try deepl.com instead.
New and very impressive.
From the same people as linguee


#11

I’d agree that having a centralised account from all of this has been a positive side effect.

But from what I’ve read over the past few years, it would seem Google really wanted the social aspect to work.

Here’s a blog I read last year - it certainly seems they were still putting effort into it, although they may have already resigned themselves to defeat.

As for the other services. Yeah, some of the tech makes its way into other apps, but the chopping and changing makes me reticent to rely on a new app from Google.

I’d be livid if I was in your position of having to try and migrate a large number of people from G+ to another platform.

The same can be said for any of the other apps/services Google have killed off in the past.

Their strategy feels very shotgun like - Make enough stuff, and some of it will stick.


(Nick) #12

Google Reader. Never forget.


(Simon B) #13

For me the writing was on the wall after Vic Gundotra (who spearheaded the project) left Google in 2014. He really was the driving force behind the project. I suspect that had he been as personable as Sundar, he could have been CEO.

By the way… Google Photos, which is pretty much universally acknowledged as the best mobile Photo storing/sharing app (I even know many iOS users who use it over the default iOS Photos app) also started life as a feature within G+ before being spun out into a separate project.


(Harry) #14

I’m one of those, Google Photos is very good but iOS Photos is slowly catching up…


#15

No!

I use Google+. I like it, and I don’t have a Facebook account and I’m not creating one.

Google+ is exceptionally useful for its communities and events systems… if it goes It’ll seriously reduce my ability to socialise.


(Marcus Nailor, Hot Coral Detective) #16

G+ is where all of my news gets consolidated! It’s perfect to ‘subscribe’ to my tech communities and get a constant stream of chronological news :heart_eyes:

Sucks to see they’re kicking it to the curb :persevere:


(Jolin) #17

I don’t know what features you need, but you might want to also look at groups.io. They are doing great things, and for some types of groups would fit well.


(Phil) #18

I still miss Google Reader. :frowning:


(Tony Hoyle) #19

Google throw a lot of stuff out there to see what sticks… it’s their development strategy.

Android stuck, ChromeOS stuck, etc.

Dropping things that didn’t work is actually a strength. Lots of companies continue with things long after they have obviously failed, just to try to get their money back (which rarely happens).

OTOH their failure to make a single chat application is a symptom of why that doesn’t always work.

Google+ as has been mentioned, you probably use every day but just not the messaging part of it (unless you ever commented on youtube). The brand is somewhat irrelevant now.