I agree with you although I think the answer has been provided above by @davidwalton
I gained a lot of information about EV tyres, which I understood, from the link below but that last paragraph was beyond me.
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Winners of Government funding todayā¦
So, this is a particularly strange and a bit of a muddled story on the Beeb at the moment against EV cars.
The jist of this seems to be that because people can drive an EV car āguilt freeā theyāre more likely to use it and because a Tesla Model 3 is bigger than a Ford Fiesta everyone is going to have larger cars when we switch to EVs.
On that first point, Iād say that right now, itās only a very small minority, despite everyone claiming they want to do their ābitā for the environment thatās actively NOT driving at the moment. So, if people are going to be driving anyway, then driving an EV is better than driving a petrol car.
On the second point, the Tesla Model 3 is a completely different market to the Ford Fiesta (or VW Golf). Smaller models are already available (Renault Zoe for example) which is looking at the āEuropean City Marketā more than the āUS marketā and itās up to Car manufacturers to produce those cars.
Yeah that is a weird story to run.
Firstly if EVs didnāt exist will would still potentially have more cars in future as the population rises.
In 2001 it was different times so I would expect ownership to be moving at a higher rate than population over than time frame, but I cant see that at a constant rise.
If they looked at a shorter period the last 10 years from 2010 to 2020 its much less of an increase.
Weāve gone from 28,420,877 (2010) to 30,250,294 (2015) to 31,695,988 (2020) in Great Britain (Note both slightly higher if āUKā)
If we look at population we are really talking about these days 1/2 of the population has a vehicle which seems logically about right. Back at the millennium and prior to that a two car home was not common, and a three car was rare, you shared the family car because of money. These days PCP and cheap cars.
So 2050 we might well have 44 million vehicles and 88 million population.
Or we may have found a better solution like driverless shared vehicles that you tap on your app and comes to your door and takes you to your destination for a monthly subscription.
Car ownership is lower and a whole generation that only knows about ICE vehicles from that old āYouTubeā website.
This video is making the rounds currentlyā¦ ouch 
Thatās a very expensive accident.
How can you not know your door is open 
especially that style of door. Someone even mentioned that the car screen alerts you and there is continuous beeping too
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Yep - thereās just no way anyone can āaccidentallyā drive around like that without realising the doors are open.
I strongly suspect someone thought it would be funny to pretend that was what happened, and got a shock with the bus.
I was tempted to do a "backwards dealā on this MGZSev just because I could.
My 2+ year old Kona was recently valued at Ā£26900 so I could get this and a cheque for the difference 
I wonāt of course but it is interesting that deals such as this are emerging.
Because dumb people 
seen this other day and was like yeah ok then š¤¦
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Hondaās Chinese division
https://www.wuyang-honda.com/home/cpzs/ddj/detail-1008.shtml
Thatās not a monthly cost.
Thatās the total 
Ā£350 equivalent to buy an electric scooter.
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I donāt know, Iām learning Chinese as we speak.
Regular plug socket I think.
As far as Iāve worked out you can pedal it to charge too. It gets it classified as an ebike so 28 mph limit and no license needed.
These are ranges of the battery options.
48* 15= 720 WH
48* 20= 960 WH
48* 24= 1152 WH
It has a 350 watt motor so 
Say you used 20 watts hours per mile.
720 / 20 = 36 miles
960 / 20 = 48 miles
1152 / 20 = 57.6 miles
55 / 1.609 = 34 miles
70 / 1.609 = 43 miles
85 / 1.609 = 53 miles
So the ranges probably are about right.
Going from their figures watt hours per mile.
720 / 34 = 21.2
960 / 43 = 22.3
1152 / 53 = 21.7
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Those Chinese, masters of copyingš¤£
I wonder if VW will turn a blind eye to this EV out of China.
Made by GWM, a Chinese maker that has just bought Daimlerās factory in Brazil, call this car the ORA Punk Cat 
Not expected in the U.K. of course but I am told by a Malaysian contact that many are gagging for it.
No need to make one, there is already a thread for electric scooters:
(It wasnāt me who flagged your post, I just remember seeing the scooter topic before)
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I have no issues whatsoever with this thread becoming a blog for all things relevant to electric mobility. Posting an article half way through someoneās conversation doesnāt stop that conversation from happening. And while some of the posts are not directly related to the UK, they can often be seen as indicative of the global shift to electric vehicles.
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Name them.
It seems to me that there may be four or five who in the past have expressed negative views about a topic which I am sure is being read by very many people who choose not to post.
News from around the world, which for motor manufacturers is getting smaller and smaller, may not touch upon us today but certainly will in the future.
An example of world news which may not been seen as being relevant to the U.K. buyer today is the news that the German government is reducing subsidies for PHEVs if the EV range canāt achieve a minimum.
This measure will deal a crippling blow to a number of manufacturers, chief among them is JLR.
"From 2022 this minimum range will be increased to 60 kilometers, from 2025 to 80 kilometers. The limit for emissions, however, remains the same.
At the current status, some popular models would therefore already be withdrawn from funding from next year, see graphic below.ā
Hydrogen isnāt electric though, itās hydrogen.
So if a person said what car do you drive, it would be an Electric / EV if it was electric, or Hydrogen / Fuel cell if it was hydrogen.
So āAre you ready for a hydrogen car?ā makes sense in being specifically about hydrogen powered cars.
āAre you ready for hydrogen vehicles?ā might be more inclusive as we really donāt need a āAre you ready for hydrogen trucks?ā thread, unless we have a massive influx of cutting edge truckers to the forums.
A lot of the posts on hydrogen have been on hydrogen engines too. These donāt convert to electricity on board they work in a very similar way to ICE cars.
So calling them electric wouldnāt be correct, however I donāt personally think a dedicated thread is worth it, but it is in the same spirt of EVs and probably the people here share the same interest.
I have read that thread, and indeed it could have gone there instead and been ignored.
The posts arenāt about e-bikes or e-motorbikes though so would be out of place with the discussion around these scooters:
If we want anything non-electric car related outside this thread then it needs to be consistently applied is my point.
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I do wonder if itās worth asking TPTB in Monzo Forum Land if itās worth setting up a whole āEnvironmentā sub forum like theyāve done with āTech and Gamingā.
There is a specific environment thread already to talk about general stuff, but I can see if there was a dedicated sub-forum, we could expand and have separate threads for EV cars, EV bikes, Public Transport without āswampingā the main topic.
And for the rest of the environment questions, you could have discussions on āwhat can I do personally?ā, āwhat can Monzo do as a bank?ā, what can Monzoās SME customers do?, what should Governments be doing etc.
Andā¦
to keep this on topic, last night I was just looking up the specs of the tiny little Fiat 500 - I didnāt actually realise that has an 87Kwh battery and an estimated range of 300 miles! Yes, itās tiny (I would never fit into one personally) - but I can definitely seeing that being a popular car for city driving if they can get the price down to compare it with other petrol ācity carsā.
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Are you sure? I donāt know how big you are, but if Jeremy Clarkson can fit into a Fiat 500, surely most anyone can?
Iām nearly 6ā, give or take the odd inch, and I can fit into mine just fine. Thereās loads more headroom than you might think from the outside. Iāve tried a Mini as well, and that felt a lot more cramped in comparison.
Iām seriously considering trading in my petrol 500 for an electric one in the next year or two, if the sums can add up.
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