Are you ready for an electric car?

From reading the comments, people don’t seem too happy about it :confused:

They will need to suck it up or else pay the increase, up to nearly £1000 for some !

Thats not a new thing, its been that way since 17’. Thats only the first year on registration, second year onwards is £145 for B-M.

So a vehicle chucking out 255+ g/km pays the same as 1-50 hybrids.

Edit: Hybrids pay 10 quid less at £135

If you buy something like a G63 AMG the £2,135 on first reg (and £465 x 5yrs for £40k+ lux tax) probably is insignificant to your finances.

Those comments are so full of misconceptions and fear mongering that’s its honestly really disheartening.


Fears about where all of the chargers are going to go, apparently every parking space will need to have a charge point…
Electric car batteries will go flat because of traffic jams…
Apparently its greener to keep an old banger than to get an EV…
EVs are more polluting than ICE due to batteries…
The whole thing obviously won’t be possible until we have self-charging cars…
People will steal all of the charging wires every night…
If you get caught in the snow overnight in an electric car you will die…
The grid won’t cope…
The batteries significantly degrade in 3 to 5 years…
There are not enough windmills


And that’s just from the top rated comments!
The cognitive dissonance is astonishing. Electric cars in 2032 will certainly have as much if not more range than ICE cars, and the charge times will likely be similar to refueling if things continue to progress at the rate they currently are.
You’d swear that all of these commenters are filling up their tank every day to get to work. And that they cannot conceive of the idea of charge points being at existing service/fuel stations.

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You mean you don’t fuel your car at home from your home made petrol every night?

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I swear the BBC HYS comments used to be fairly tolerable and people used their brain a bit. It’s a real cess pit on par with the Daily Mail or YouTube some days.

Interestingly, government appear to be set to slash the benefit in kind tax on electric cars to 0% for at least one year. Which essentially means if your employer signs up for cars on salary sacrifice you can get your car payments tax free. Massive bonus there.

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That’s what we’ve done.

Simply confirms my view that the motor industry needs to start selling. Before that they will need to educate their staff.
Sadly it will not happen because the dealerships can’t afford to pay the sums that the makers demand and the makers can’t afford to give up ICEs.

20,000 orders in the book already. 1500 will be delivered in the U.K. in March.

" * The VW ID.3 electric car was made available to order in the UK in May 2019

  • This was 4 months before images and details of the car were officially revealed
  • First allocation of 1,500 cars were sold in 48 hours, according to a UK dealer
  • Vehicle waiting list is now 20,000 strong - and fears over supply have grown given the recent bottleneck in battery availability for electric cars

Good marketing spiel that to create interest in a new product which has not yet reached delivery into the market.

#cynic

I am not perhaps as cynical as you because I am being offered a car in a few weeks.
But that aside have you tried any of the above cars yet, novelties or otherwise ?

Yes we have test driven as follows:

  • Tesla S (just because we could)
  • Tesla Model 3. Nice car, comfortable, lots of gadgets, small boot entry (saloon style), will require getting used to the central display. Justifies the £40k price tag.
  • Hyundai Kona. Felt like a Hyundai, could not justify the £38k price tag based on feel. small in the back seats, high boot floor.
  • Hyundai Ionic. Much the same as the Kona but felt slower / sluggish. Range limited. Cheap feel to interior. Nothing special.
  • Nissan Leaf. Limited range. Felt like a much better built car than Hyundai.

Wanted to test the Kia e-nero but none avilable, pre-orders due August. Dealers not helpful other than showing the interior of PHEV equivelants.

There is a very clear difference in my view between a car designed to be an electric from the ground up (Nissan leaf, Tesla, VW ID.3, etc.) which are far better than cars which have an electric option/conversion such as the e-Golf, Kia e-nero. In these the use of space for batteries is much worse, and has big impacts on the internal layout of the cars.

We have in the end bought a 2nd hand Nissan Leaf (2 years old, 10k miles on the ODO). Not as much range as we intended, but believe it should suit our needs without stress. I will report back when we have had it for some time.
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Congratulations, really good to read that you have purchased a Leaf. I am certain that you will soon become a great fan of electric cars.

Have you arranged for a home charger or are you like me not able to take advantage because of a lack of off street parking ?

We have a normal 13A ouside socket which we are confident will suffice for now; charging at home will almost always be over the weekend with little use in that time and partly because we expect to move house soon. If this does not work after we’ve had it some time we will get a type 2 fitted to the house by the drive.

Not really sure how that’s a benefit since you’re paying over the odds for it. There are pros and cons but I can’t see any potential net benefit at all.

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I see your point, but I guess it depends on what you’re comparing it to. I couldn’t afford to buy a new car outright, so you could argue that only having to pay half for it (the other half is recouped by selling the car back at the end), plus being able to spread that half-cost over the full time you own the car means I am able to now afford cars I wouldn’t otherwise be able to.

For me that monthly figure is ~£300 for total travel expenses inc fuel. You could argue that I should just save that figure per month until I can afford to buy a car outright, but that leaves me without a car while saving. I could buy a cheaper car, but ~£300pm is the cheapest EV with the range I need at the moment.

Did you consider used electric cars ?

Think I’m going to go for a Nissan Leaf 40kw N-Connecta - I have an appointment at the Nissan dealer on Saturday to try and get a decent deal on a 69 plate. Learning in the Tekna has spoiled me!

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I did, but I’d been waiting on the 50kWh Zoe and kind of had my mind set on that haha. I’m not going to pretend my car buying decisions are entirely financially driven.

I could have bought a used Zoe 22kWh for around half my budget, but it would have half the range. The 40kWh model are still selling for £15k to £20k. Perhaps in 4 years (when my current PCP runs out) there will be more 200+ mile used EVs on the market and I’ll go that route.

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