I think this is the problem with having three different graphs telling you three different things. You check your target to see what your spends should be but (as youāve noted) it doesnāt take into account (as far as we know) the upcoming bills, so you have to go and check the balance line to see whatās happening there (yet).
Thank you for confirming this, I was starting to think I was the only one. I can see the trends being a good feature if you have multiple banks but since I put all my faith in Monzo and only have the one, it feels like a step backwards from budgets.
Thank you, this is a good suggestion and temporary work around. I have set up a custom category called āPotSpendsā.
However, I get an irritating niggle with this method. Each time I break open a pot and do a big purchase with that money, Iāll go in and mark it as āPotSpendsā - Monzo will ask me each time if it to mark transactions going forward from this seller as āPotSpendsā.
Imagine that im using the Ā£1000 from the pot I smashed open to buy parts PC across Amazon and eBay - I really donāt want these transactions from these sellers marked as āPotSpendsā going forward. It is a niggle I know, but Iām often marking things from these sellers as different categories and once it slips it marks everything going forward and becomes a Ln overhead.
I recently broke open Christmas pot, where I save up for the 11 months for everyoneās presents so that I donāt have to fork out a massive amount of extra money one month of the year. I smashed the pot but each time I made a transaction and marked it as āPotSpendā. I had about 20 transactions to mark from different sellers and nearly marked them as this going forwards, which would throw off all my other goals.
TLDR: I exclude a lot of transactions and the custom category workaround provides a lot of margin for error (for me personally)
So I hooked everything up and really played with it over the weekend, to both evaluate whether I could use it, and to offer suggestions for the next stages.
The TL;DR is not right now. I love the concept of the burn-down chart and that is super useful. But itās not a finished product in that you canāt set individual budgets per area and also allow for planned extraneous purchases. More detailed feedback is below
Burndown chart
Absolute beauty. This is the best thing about target so far.
Target setting
This is where I donāt think it works all that well. Firstly, it would be really great to allow for different targets each month rather than one set for all.
Secondly, Iām not sure I agree with the logic of how it sets its target. For example, for me itās not picking up on the bimodal distribution of my spending, which is then throwing both the suggested target and also the āamount savedā completely out. It should note that the rolling average over a six month period is much lower, meaning when I set it to this, the amount saved is far more realistic.
Would be really great to see what caused me to go over target. If I can see it was pink flamingoās then that might tell me to buy less of them for my garden. If it shows as a Ferrari, then I know it was a planned purchase. Sadly, I dont have either of these
Also, @RoreEricaOkoh I wonder if you could add Targets into the thread title. Itās really hard to find this amongst others and I keep searching for Targets to see stuff from a when summary was called that
This is tougher though, really itās a list of everything.
If you spend Ā£500 on flamingo food on day2, that hasnāt put you over budget, but when you buy your weekly shop, youāll be over budget. But really itās the first purchase that caused the over spend.
Iāve just been fobbed off on live chat, hardly satisfactory and I am at a loss why Monzo would put statements to contact them through live chat regarding 28 day periods if they just tell you that they will forward it to the development team
In there, though, are the seeds of some useful analysis.
If youāve gone over by Ā£500, identifying any exceptional (i.e. one-off) spend, or spends, that adds up to that value would be useful, whenever it happened in that period.
Similarly, if itās a general thing, then knowing the spend by category breakdown and seeing if thereās anything you either need to tighten your belt on (or if you need to readjust the budget as a whole) would be useful, I think.
Would some kind of callout on the category (or merchant?) that changed by the largest % (or absolute amount perhaps) compared to last month be useful for spotting what might have caused you to go over target?
If I can see that my shopping budget has increased by Ā£xx pounds and thereās a note that says ābecause I bought flamingo foodā then I could be like āah yes, I remember why itās out nowā
But - I really do think, personally, you should be able to set a transaction as part of the spend, but not the target. Similar to how you can exclude a transaction from summary. I still want to acknowledge the money has gone, but if itās planned for I still want to see whatās left of my ābudgetā
I think to be particularly useful itās not just a comparison to last month but the average spend for the last x months by merchant and category, otherwise one rogue month would mess things up for a few months, I think.
Iām here for the sentiment (but Iād rather the budget expand because Iāve told it to account for Christmas gifts rather than not including them). But I think thatās as well as the solution that @avb suggests, because there will still be periods where you do go over budget and you want to find out why.
I only asked for my credit card spending to be included in my Monzo budget a week ago, and now I can do it, brilliant!
May be the only one, but give me the option to set the Trends tab to my āhome screenā, please! Opposed to my main account screen which includes the Ā£0 left of Ā£1000 budget, but that budget is only for that account. Iād like to see the Target budget there.
This is exactly how Monzoās current budget tool works in summary and has done since 2017. I cant believe they are removing it for this shocking āgoalsā replacement. What a downgrade.
Yet problem with goals. Can someone explain how shared tabs work with goals??
If I spend £50 eating out with a friend and I put it on a shared tab, when they pay half it comes through as a transfer. However, transfers are permanently excluded with goals, so my goal still says £50 spent even though in relaity it was £25.
Because youāve not changed your friends inbound payment to eating out, to balance it.
Also. When splitting with someone and you send them an SMS with a link, if they use that link it will recognise which payment it is for, and assign accordingly.
If they just send you a transfer from their bank to your monzo details, monzo doesnāt know what itās for so it is just that. A transfer.
Agreeably using the monzo SMS links are a pain now Apple pay isnāt involved, so people find it easier to just send the general way.
Im hoping someone can help me understand how this is better than the monthly summary. If I want this to be anywhere useful I would have to re-categorise so many transactions and exclude them.
I donāt have any ātargetā spend on shopping etc. just an amount for the month and it goes anywhere.
Before I have excluded items that would be something saved up for months, but now I would have to put that into say bills to exclude it.