A better way to budget is here šŸŽÆ

Starting to get used to this a little bit more, but I must admit that I do find myself going back to summary often as well.

For me it boils down to a few things:

  1. Spending budgets for individual categories is an absolute must (I really can’t see why this wouldn’t transfer from summary, so really hoping it’s updated soon :crossed_fingers:)

  2. As others have pointed out, it’s not great for accruals. Each month I set aside a certain amount of money into a ā€œholidayā€ pot to ensure that I’m putting enough away each month to cover holidays in the year. It’s not clear how to account for this, because most months it means I’m wildly under budget, and then months with holidays I’m wildly over budget. I wouldn’t want to exclude this spending completely as I still want to be able to track it etc, but if anyone knows of a nice, neat way to solve this (or if anyone has any ideas of how this could be built in) I would greatly appreciate it!

  3. I’m not sure that it’s completely clear exactly what the best purpose for each of the three graphs is. I can read a graph and get info from it, but overall it’s seeming to add a lot of complication. I’m not clear on what value each is actually providing over what we had before in summary, which to me was very clear and serves its purpose well.

This thread is titled ā€œa better way to budgetā€ but as of yet I’m not convinced (and in general I love monzo, so I really would like to be convinced!)

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My only idea is that each month the £xx you put into a pot, instead of savings you mark it as holiday and then consider it spent. Then when you do spend in one big go, mark it as savings?

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Here’s a lovely quality of life improvement. Targets now shows how many days are left in the current period and what that means as max spend per day:

This is lovely. Thanks team!

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Negative.

Did you work it out from the data I’ve left unobscured (I know that it can be worked out, I was just curious if anyone would)?

Or did you do it @N26throwaway style and run it through image processing?

I mean it’s not Ā£610. But I’m not saying that it’s not close. :eyes:

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About £611?

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Available left of target = £22 * 15 days = £330
So £330 represents 54% of original spend target
Original spend target = £611.11

That’s the award for the most random monthly target right there :trophy:

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And in today’s entry in Trends team sparks joy, we have a lovely little update that shows you, when you’re scrubbing on the Targets line, exactly how much above/below budget you are.

I’m so so happy folk are listening and have brought this to us. A small tweak but definitely brings important functionality and a lovely bit of Monzo Magic. :tm:

(Edit: I think I’ve accidentally added a bit of a filter to that screenshot, looking at the contrast!)

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I concur - that is a fantastic little tweak

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This is android? iOS always had this but I agree it’s a nice feature.

Did you ever conduct your test, Jamie? If you did, how did it go and what were your conclusions?

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Yes. It lasted about two days I’m afraid to say. Then I realised Iā€˜ve got this far with just a quick balance check every day or so, that checking a graph doesn’t do it for me. I never really compare one month to the last, and as long as I end the financial month in the black I’m good. So I went back to Starling, whose app I prefer inordinately.

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Yup, essentially the reason I moved away from Monzo. I didn’t see the need to pay for this feature (at the time it was a paid for option) and still don’t even when it’s there for free

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Does anyone have the issue whereby when tapping through the different options in trends I.e balance, spending and target it then jumps to December and doesn’t display any graph information? Tapping them again makes it go back to this month

Remaining thankful for the recent tweaks on Targets (which, incidentally, I’m using much more than I ever thought I would, not being a ā€œbudgeterā€), here’s a request for a small quality of life improvement.

I’m slightly above target. This is that the Targets screen looks like when I open the screen:

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This gives me the impression that I’m Ā£103 over budget :scream:

But when I scrub and hold the graph to today, I get a much more informative view:

Screenshot_20230222_105745_Monzo

Request: any chance of having the tap/scrub version as default please?

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Sadly because of the way I use categories my trends never makes any sense. I have always categorised my bills in to specific types ā€œhealthcareā€ ā€œhouse billsā€ ā€œtransportā€ etc as I like that granularity.

But then it means I can’t meaningfully exclude much. So it’s just a graph of my bills and shopping combined.

It would be more useful to be able to discount specific repeating transactions.

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Like with the ā€˜Left to Spend’ feature, ā€˜Trends’ will only become useful to me when they implement 4 weekly periods to coincide with my pay days (like a lot of public sector workers).

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Genuine question - when I used trends I got paid on the same day each month and set it to this, which was early in the month and typically a four week period.

Is there a reason why this wouldn’t work?

I’m trying to edit a target for a previous month, changing the target itself and the accounts included but the edits don’t seem to stick. They are only applying to the current month with the previous month remaining unchanged. I’m selecting the past month and attempting to edit the target directly.

Does anyone know how this is supposed to work? I believe there were changes rolled out to have month specific target configurations.

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I think the change was so that you could change the current month, but other months would be unaffected. I don’t believe you can set it differently month to month.

@avb should be able to confirm

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