What is so unbelievable about that?
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I really only watch stuff on YouTube (w/ YT Premium), unless I’ve got Netflix for a month or smth like that. BBC does have a few shows that I maybe watch sometimes.
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I’ve watched quite a bit on BBC this year, though none of it live. It’s great for wildlife documentaries which I love, the occasional drama and a particular soap that I’ve watched for decades 
I don’t take advantage of radio or podcasts though.
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I get not wanting to pay but think of a better excuse.
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Better excuse? 
Those who insist everyone watches live TV and “just don’t want to pay” are worse than those who moan about TV license to begin with.
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It’s not just live TV though. If you watch proceedings live on Parliament’s website, that’s covered. If you watch something live on YouTube (as long as it’s being broadcast somewhere on TV too) it’s covered. It covers a lot more than conventional TV broadcasts.
I actually find it hard to believe that there are more than a handful people who don’t do something that falls under the TV licence at least once a year.
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The amount of people who declare they don’t need a TV licence and are watching live parliament broadcasts has got to be slim to none.
It’s not that hard to believe that yes people who say they don’t need the licence don’t need the licence.
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Millions of people are doing just that. Of the ones who aren’t, a substantial number will be using iPlayer or watching live sport on a streaming platform.
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Yeah but those using iPlayer aren’t sitting their waiting for the broadcast to start. They are watching at their convenience when it suits.
There’s a doc that Ofcom does each year which shows how rapid the drop has been since 2018. With a slight peak when COVID hit.
The only age range that is only a small drop is the over 65s stuck in their habits.
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If you watch it via BBC Parliament, yes, not so sure about watching it via the Parliament website.
I don’t think that this is the document you referred to, but it does show that the reach of traditional tv was 75% in 2023.
Gen Z swerves traditional broadcast TV as less than half tune in weekly - Ofcom.
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That still requires a TV licence. Anything on iPlayer does, whether it’s live or not.
Anything that you’re watching live at the same time as it’s being broadcast on TV needs a licence too. People don’t realise how many things require a TV licence.
People don’t realise
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Never had a TV license, never will. Waste of time and money
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I didn’t say that didn’t require a license?
I’m responding to Anrachist re those waiting on iPlayer for the program to play in real time. I would assume most use the service to watch at their convenience.
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Looks like someone even went on a rant a decade ago to say why should we need one, and the answer was you don’t to view using the website.
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I think that would have been a very major overreach on behalf of the BBC!
Fair point because of course we are more likely from those that want to disband the BBC than those who are quite happy with it
People who want the BBC to actually disband are not the two main sides though?
Unless you’re talking about disband as reforming into something else ie supporting themselves and being accountable rather than a gravy train of funds.
There’s people who pay
- Happy with the value for money
- Not happy but still pay it
- Would prefer a subscription/ad supported model
- Pay because they are afraid of being fined
There’s people who don’t pay
- Genuinely don’t need a license
- Think they don’t but actually do
- Those that know they do and chance it
- Would pay if it was subscription or funded via ads
The whole paying for live TV watching is antiquated imo. It should be a specific BBC subscription only applicable for BBC channels and you have a sub to login to iPlayer. Monthly payment that can be stopped/started. If they can’t make the business work then meh.
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In a year with both the Olympics and the Euros I feel like yes quite a lot of people watched something live this year.
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And all those people would have needed a TV licence if they watched those live.
If they used Discovery+ or ITV to watch again then no.
Or if they couldn’t care less about either then no.
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