The Great Permacrises

There is, it’s called market competition. There are several large supermarkets and people will shop at the best value ones (or just go to Waitrose because they are loaded and don’t care).

Supermarkets have often been taking the hit on inflationary pressure to stay competitive. It doesn’t need any intervention from anyone, the market works. The problem is just that costs have gone up and supplies are more limited in a world that’s more divided than it was before and more subject to supply chain issues due to geopolitics, climate change etc.

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These are £3.90 in asda 150g.

My friend is GF so I buy her random stuff when I go shopping as she can’t have anything from the workplace tuck shop.

You could be right. In which case, I guess my amazement should be aimed at the US media and algorithms powering social media.

A very topical issue in the Balkans atm

Social media having lots of price comparison between the prices they pay locally vs western European countries.

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These are £3.90 at Sainsbury’s too. The point was they tried to up them to a point of £4.50, then found they couldn’t sell them so had to drop it 60p back to try at £3.90.

That £3.90 is the new normal price.

That £4.70 is Waitrose. Where it doesn’t matter if a choc bar is £5 or £10 when you don’t care about the bill. So if £4.70 is acceptable and gets purchased why drop it.

Costs will have increased so £2.20 to £2.80 might be understandable.
But to then keep repeatedly increasing to see at what point people go I can’t afford £2.20 > £3.90 that is just pure greed.

Don’t focus just on this case the same thing is happening across all brands, they deserve to be called out and boycotted.

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I think you’ll struggle to boycott every company that tries to make as much money as they can.

It used to be kept in check by losing customers if the prices were rapidly increased and seen as pure greed.

These days it’s becoming too normalised to rinse everyone for every penny.

People are too easily screwed over and don’t kick up enough fuss imo

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It still is. But costs rise.

In your example of the chocolate bar, if they could sell it at twice the price but only lost half the customers they would do it in a heartbeat.

There’s a balance between making money and what the customer will pay. This is the case for everything.

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Fair enough. What have you been doing to kick up a fuss?

In a capitalist economy the consumer can only send a message by changing their buying behaviour. If you are outraged by the price of goods your only recourse is to not buy the goods, or to buy them elsewhere.

The price of chocolate may not be the best example as cocoa prices in particular have shot up dramatically.

which leads to:

As of 11 February, cocoa futures are at $10,300 per tonne – an astronomical figure for chocolate makers, especially small buyers. In December 2024, futures were up about 250% compared to the same month in 2023, from $3,800 to $12,500 per tonne.

Shortages in West Africa, which produces between 50 and 70% of the world’s cocoa, drove up prices. Climate change, a deadly virus, and aging cocoa trees in Ghana and Ivory Coast, the main exporters and a strong demand, are all cited as reasons.

I can guarantee you every company is trying to make as much money as they can. That’s the whole purpose of companies.

For some that will mean putting prices up and others it will mean keeping prices low to be more competitive and have more customers, but the motivation either way is the same.

No corporate execs are sitting there saying ‘how about we keep prices low because that’s a nice thing to do for consumers’.

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Unless you’re willing to organise a petition, protest then yes it’s literally just avoiding buying.

The issue is when one brand leads and others follow and you end up basic needs like toilet rolls costing way more than they should.

Those saying but businesses always want to make as much money. No shit.

There has definitely been a change in attitudes though, you must have experience it where people are more accepting of being screwed over without thinking through is this value for money.

I’ve been on this planet a few decades now and it feels like only in the last three or so years people are increasingly getting screwed over for every penny they have.

Not just food, but everything from council tax to water and energy and subscriptions.

At a certain point people on an average wage will have zero disposable income and be eating basic baked beans.

I predict a riot.

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Car tax.

2022 - £20
2024 - £30
2025? £35!

Car insurance coming in £409 third party fire and theft or £490 for fully comp.

Is it worth fully comp with a 14 year old 1 litre corsa? :joy:

Depends on your risk appetite really.

But any claim is writing that car off! With a few hundred quid excess, you’ll be able to buy some chocolate for @phildawson and that’s it!

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Sorry - how is trying to make money a bad business prospect? The only way I can think of to even describe a good business prospect is that it makes more money.

Not had a crash in 12 years so I’m probably testing fate :joy:

What about tempting it :smiley:

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#correctiongate going strong :muscle:t3:

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Toilet paper is a basic human right and should be provided by the government free of charge.

I don’t know if it should be a devolved power or run from Westminster.

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I’d guess around £1 a roll?

I’m out of touch when it comes to prices as I don’t do the shopping. I couldn’t even tell you how much a pint of milk is these days. I should probably learn these things.