Passcode for App

Not sure what to say about your assumption that we all have the financial means to have our phones repaired when they break, but that aside:

I don’t really think I’m asking monzo to do “all the work for me”, rather just to provide a fallback feature for when biometrics either aren’t usable, or aren’t desirable, as I’m aware not everyone likes them.

I found this post when trying to find out what had happened to the passcode lock feature I used to use before I started using biometrics. It’s not as though I’ve been scratching my arse for months then decided to get on to Monzo’s case about my broken phone :sweat_smile:

It wasn’t an assumption, you stated that it was broken.

Ultimately it was just a suggestion that you might be better going down this route rather than waiting for Monzo to implement this. As you can see, this topic is over 2 years old and in all that time it has amassed only 4 votes.

It’s not popular at all, so with that in mind it’s unlikely that Monzo will provide this as it would appear that people don’t want/need this and it’s therefore not going to be financially viable.

Yeah this works, though I get asked for my PIN rather than face ID. It’s a bit convoluted but better than nothing, thanks!

I said it was broken, I didn’t say I could have it repaired :upside_down_face:

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t expect anything to be done about this quickly, if at all. Rather my current situation led me to what I thought was an omission (indeed a removal) of a fairly basic feature, so I voted and commented and here we are.

That’s fine, if you can’t repair or upgrade your phone all you can do is vote for this feature.

I see that you’ve now voted. That’s all you can do for now :+1:

as titled required. Please accept this request, thank you so much!

Accept what request? What are you trying to do?

I believe you want to press the vote button right at the top

But as yours would bring it to 5, I wouldn’t get hopes up

Add a passcode for the app. I merged another thread so it makes a little less sense than it did.

I’m not sure I buy the privacy Vs security argument.
Just because someone can’t take money out there and then, accessing your account gives a lot of information about you which someone could use to attempt to defraud you.
So a lack of privacy could create lack of security

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I don’t buy your logic. If you’re worried some hypothetical fraudster might root through your banking app for info, what else will they gain from all those other apps you don’t have PIN locks for (email, contacts, location, calendar, to-do list, photos, I could go on…) whilst they have this hypothetical free and unsupervised access to your phone?

This comes up periodically. Monzo has been a regulated bank for years. Neither the banking regulator nor the App Store has a problem with Monzo’s approach.

With the greatest of respect to you and every future person who joins this forum to request it for ‘privacy’ reasons, it’s only going to change if the regulator insists upon it.

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But isn’t that the very essence of a privacy argument?

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Who are all these people who’d prefer to leave their phone without a PIN lock but will happily let people who might be potential untrustworthy fraudsters have free unsupervised access to their phone, and worry about these people getting access to their banking app but won’t worry about them getting access to the phone’s settings or email?

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I never had a PIN on my phone until Touch ID came along.

It is worth nothing that (in the case of Face ID), if enabled, there is no way of bypassing it with the code as mentioned in this thread, which for people wearing masks could be an issue.

Especially if, as rumoured, regulations on face masks in public areas become stricter in the coming days

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iOS 13.5 has already been released to the public, and whilst it does automatically bypass Face ID in lieu of the passcode if it detects a mask being worn, this only applies if the passcode option is enabled by the developer, which in this case it isn’t so when wearing a mask, if Face ID is active (as far as I can tell), the only way of unlocking Monzo is to take the mask off and unlock it (or disable Face ID altogether, which IMO is not desirable)

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I’ve never understood why email apps don’t have a pin as well by default.

As once you have access to someone email, you can reset nearly every password

Would be great to have passcode authorisation if touch/Face ID fails.

Particularly, Touch ID fails if it rains and my thumbs are wet (like today) so I can’t get into my account if I’m outside in the rain

There’s always the possibility of walking into a bank branch when it’s raining :joy: