Then you’ve got the streets where you have to park your car half pavement, half road, on both sides. Ain’t gonna get no charging points under roads there.
Programmed timer on wireless charge-pads, which when hits zero begins to emit the Tesla fart sound repeatedly.
Your neighbours will know…
Presently BP Pulse impose a penalty charge of £10 after 90 minutes has elapsed when charging on one of their rapid chargers.
So not difficult to control one way or another.
I think charging at work and supermarkets will likely be the primary place for topping up in 2030 for those where it’s not feasible to charge at home. As the demand continues to rise over the coming years, it will just make more and more sense for businesses to add charging to their parking spaces. And presumably by then every fuel station will have multiple charging spaces too.
On the topic of heated discussions, I’m all for it. A bit of light conflict and disagreement keeps things interesting 
Supermarket charging suits me because my personal circumstances are such that my mileage is low and I have plenty of time.
You are quite right that workplace charging will be widely used but government grants are presently being used to install fast chargers only.
As business and fleet users increasingly adopt EVs the demand will be for rapid and ultra fast chargers which as you say will be provided by today’s petrol stations and Hubs, such as can be found in Milton Keynes, Braintree and not forgetting the planned Hub at east Biggleswade.
I am sure there are or will be many others around the country and I suspect that for many a 30 minute stop will provide ample range for most folks.
As I am sure you know the average journey in the U.K. is around 40 miles so those living without access to a charger on their street will quickly get used to popping down to a service station, as we do today, for a charge, albeit for a little longer than required to “fill up” an ICE.
what if I don’t need to go to the supermarket though? I do my supermarket trips on my bike, no need for a car.
We get ours delivered. Nobody wants to drag kids around a supermarket. It’s not fair on them or the other people in there 
Plus it stops me buying loads of food (mainly junk food) I don’t need 
Another non-saving on the EV front 
Well, what do you use your car for? Where ever you typically park when you’re not parked at home will likely become a potential location for a charger.
I’ve totally ruled myself out of one for now.
So if I decide to get a new job and move to something different. I’m looking at approx 160 mile round trip. If I was to get an electric let’s just say the quoted range is approx 209 miles, that’s the battery nearly wiped out in one trip.
I’ve just worked 7.5 hour day, traveled around 3 hours ish, dependant on traffic and roads. To get that battery charged for the next day in the example car I’ve looked at its anytime from 30 mins to an hour.
I’ve not got time to waste, waiting for that battery to charge, I’d just want to be home and done for the day.
Can’t charge at home, can’t charge at work, can’t charge at supermarket.
So yeah petrol for me, up until my choice of affordable electric cars come with a 5 min charge time, which is enough to repeat the journey for the next day. When it gets to the point that it’s almost as quick as just putting in fuel from the pump then that’ll likely make me more interested.
160 mile daily commute?!
That’s 800 miles a week, that’s going to cost you a serious wedge in fuel!
I’d strongly recommend against a commute this long. That said, your savings in fuel each month by going EV would probably cover the lease on an EV if you can figure out a way to make it work. Though I think with that kind of annual mileage the cost per month on a finance deal might be pretty high.
What I don’t get, is surely it would make sense to just slowly convert petrol stations to electric charging stations?
Fit the fastest possible chargers and that way even if you’re only there for 10 mins you could get a good charge.
Petrol stations are already in convenient places and accessible to everyone.
My leases are usually 8k miles and the real value deals are usually for 5k.
I think if he told a finance company that he will be doing 35k+ miles a year they would just punch him in the mouth.
Maybe hire purchase could be an option. This is for a new renault zoe;
Monthly payments of £472 is not far off the estimated fuel cost of £480 for 3,200 miles a month. With apparently no mileage restrictions though I’m sure there a ‘within reason’ somewhere in the T&Cs.
Ignoring the costs, there’s not a chance I’d want to do that sort of commute daily in a car.
Obviously it will depend on the route, but driving that far each day and hoping you don’t hit traffic works/accidents or just general volume, will be an absolute nightmare.
Commute is the easy part with a petrol engine at least. Fill up and go, can’t do that with an affordable electric yet.
Until one comes along that can fit my needs it’s truly out the window. Doesn’t matter which way I look at it, just not doable. Hopefully another 5 or 10 years electric charging will have changed completely.
Meant to add I’ll keep my eye out on the market and developments, to see what’s coming up too
At the risk of derailing the conversation, I’m really curious about the 160 mile commute. You’d be shelling out around £25 a day just to get to work. Nearly £500 a month in travel expenses. You could literally rent a 2 bed house nearby where you work for less than that (in my area at least, I realise rent prices vary like crazy across the country).
Interesting US take on cables going over pavements
