Here’s Kryten using one back in 2019 installing 22kW charging at home.
@Ordog on a consumer level I can imagine the Lightning F-150 next year will be one to watch
As for vans Ford has an electric range coming (currently hybrid).
As for actual flatbed trucks I can’t see any big names just smaller companies doing their own thing.
Theres this beast from Tesla coming too…
VW have spent a fortune to avert your perceived crisis.
I’ve always liked those massive American style trucks for some reason 
They’ve never made one over here yet though for me to even consider it electric or not.
As I mentioned, I still can’t see the AA rushing out and replacing their entire fleet with these anytime soon so they really should be practising what they preach. I’d love to be proven wrong but no comments I’ve seen thereafter seem to address this.
I also wonder if they would need more vehicles to keep up with speedy response times? While currently they make a quick stop for fuel, pretty much anywhere. V.s. selective charging stations that take considerably longer.
There’s a few electric HGVs out there mainly more as testing and demo units at the moment. Hopefully they’ll just end up using hydrogen for those instead, but yeah they exist at the moment on electric. Just not great numbers.
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Yeah they are pretty cool, but it’s going to cost import.
We just get the Ford Ranger. I assume there will be an electric version in 22/23. Electric Navara or Electric Hilux? 
There was actually an attempt at a Ford Ranger EV about two decades ago. 
Edit: 8 mins in when he takes the cover off to show the 26 lead acid batteries 
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I am so going to misunderstand everyone who says “I’m getting a Tesla Semi.” 
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Interesting to see how BMW, who have a foot hold in the emergency services, react to this:
Have to say it looks the business, unlike the BMW 3i
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You could always ask for a tow… though you probably want to keep it under 60mph in the UK 
Reaching 65 kW charging
Talking about charging is V2L a new thing?
I noticed it on the Ford F-150 page about potentially using it to power your house when you lose power.
9.6 kW off-board peak. Not sure how much that could do but might be enough for lights/heating/cooking if used sparingly. Lamp, Microwave and portable heater
That Ioniq 5 has the same party trick useful if you wanted to help someone in need of juice or I guess really into camping and want to take the fridge/TV with you…
Edit: so 3.6 kW still a cool feature
The V2L function can supply up to 3.6 kw of power. The V2L port is located under the second-row seats, and it can be activated when a vehicle is on. Another V2L port is located at the charging port on the vehicle exterior. Using a converter, customers can charge high-power electric equipment. The outside port provides power even when the vehicle is turned off.
I believe the Leaf can currently do ‘V2G’ (Vehicle-to-Grid) although ‘Grid’ is a loose term - you need to have a storage battery installed on the house side (as in, solar panels feeding storage like a Tesla Powerwall or alternative PowerVault) so the EV tops up the house battery which then feeds the house.
Fantastic idea.
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My Kona has a facility”auxiliary” which allows a power transfer via an outlet for campers etc.
When in use the Hyundai badge on the front of the car is illuminated.
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For those hankering after an ICE Audi take note.
“ Audi is setting the pace in saying goodbye to the combustion engine: the last new combustion engine is to be launched in five years, and from 2032 only electric cars are to be sold.
From Frank Johannsen”
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Sure this may be the case for new vehicles but I bet for a long time after the ban, the second hand car market for ICE will be strong.
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Only 11 years to go… 
Maybe then we will finally be at a tipping point.
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Doubt it be anywhere near by then. Not unless the prices come down drastically. Petrol and Diesel going to be here for a long time yet.
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Yeah I mean it depends on what you’re counting as “tipping point”
If you are talking new car registrations then 2030 is going to be last potential date as manufacturers stop producing new petrol/diesel.
There’s a report on the 11 June from the SMMT which uses car regs to predict the crossover on new registrations going forward. So for pure BEV overtaking ICE:
The earliest scenario is 2025
The average scenario is 2027
The slow adoption is 2029
As for BEV outnumbering ICE cars on the road I’m guessing 2030-2045?
I mean some keep their cars 15+ years, but how many will be buying a new ICE nearer to 2030
Edit:
Should also note that looking at the split of ICE it might as well read petrol. Looking at last month ICE it was 90k of which 15k were diesel and that appears to be shrinking fast.
So pure Electric Vs Diesel new registrations should flip in 2021. I would guess easily in this decade it will flip Electric Vs Diesel cars on the road. As for diesel trucks well 
So I reckon a tipping point in five years (2026) where new BEV out sells new ICE, and then a futher decade after with a tipping point with more BEV than ICE on the road (2036)
Based on how fast tech is going 2025 should be an interesting year. Only four and a bit years away 
Someone please remember this thread if Monzo still exists… 
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Great reply with lots of interesting data. All that sounds much more reasonable.
We all of course hope it happens sooner but sometimes it’s easier said than done. I want one now but sadly it’s just not financially viable at the moment. As soon as it is, I’ll help push the numbers up. 
I also wonder if when we get to the tipping point whether the government will then do a 180 on EV tax exemptions. Because they’re greedy of course and will moan about having no money since most drivers are not paying to help maintain roads and such.
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It should be kept in mind that the SMMT is a trade body representing the motor industry in the U.K.
Presently we have a situation whereby motor manufacturers, particularly JLR, are desperately trying to extend their present dependence on ICE production because in JLRs case they invested heavily in ICEs, particularly diesel, and failed to invest in EVs.
So the brief to the SMMT is to lobby the government for industry assistance in order to transition to BEVs and limit the financial penalties of failing to meet carbon emission targets. Targets which the EU is proposing to increase dramatically.
Don’t forget hybrids don’t stop getting produced until 2035, so that could see people flocking to those for a new car once the pure petrol and diesel cars can’t be produced anymore.