And you and others refuse to accept the solutions to such issues as the ability to charge away from home. Some saying they require extraordinary long range so that a rarely made journey be undertaken without stopping.
I would be interested to know the average journey of these folks.
You insist that the U.K. has not reached a tipping point for EV take up. The business sector provides evidence that it is so.
You ignore the impending huge depreciation of diesel cars which of course is serving to boost EV sales and apparently gainsay the efforts being undertaken by the battery industry to deal with retired traction batteries.
People responded to your proposed solutions and it was of no help to them.
You can try and control the narrative all you want and suppress any ābad pressā about EVs but constantly repeating the same ātipping pointā argument to anyone that questions something and cherry picking just one of the many reasons people have mentioned to justify your point doesnāt help your cause.
This is supposed to be a nice discussion looking at the pros and cons, but you seem to be taking a lot of this personally and attacking anyone that doesnāt agree with you. If people find that EVs are not good for them then thatās fine. Theyāve answered the question you asked of them (from the topic title) so leave them be.
I wasnāt aware that you can charge a car from a standard 13amp socket. Does that take much longer and do you need any kind of special fuses or surge protection or anything?
Yeah standard 13A socket you can be looking at 12 to 20 hours charging dependant on what your current charge is and what you need it to get it to. Nothing special required just plug it into the socket and watch some paint dry
Itās basically seen as the last last resort for charging.
Yes, depends on car/battery size but 20%-80% likely to be 12 hours or more. Try not to get hung up on this, itās easily adapted for when you adopt the right habbits. Get home from work (or evening activities), plug in. By the time you come to use it the following morning (which is likely to be 12 hours later; 7pm to 7amā¦) you will have a car with a mostly full battery.
As itās external socket certainly good practice to have on an RCD protected circuit, but nothing special required. When we did it initially was with the charging cable hanging out an open window on the standard ring main (not the best solution in winter).
Edited to add:
You may have to buy the charging cable for your car as many these days donāt come with the 13A cable/plug.
In six years I have never encountered a BEV owner that has spent so long charging from a 13A socket.
It s not recommended by the car manufacturers, danger of overheating of cable/plug.
Many owners have used a 13A charger to gain around 10 KWh which would provide a range of around 40 to 50 miles, enough for most daily commute.
We did this for over a year, and my friends also do the same. As their work commute is only 30 miles round trip they have never needed faster charging.
For us we changed to a 32A Type 2 tethered for 2 reasons:
we bought a new house and were having the house re-wired so made sense to have the electricians complete the work at the same time
we moved our electricity tariff to Octopus Go which is cheap for 3 hours overnight, so making sure car charging was all at 5p rateā¦
It is good that the planners are requiring all new homes to have provision for electric car charging.
They just need now to concentrate on the properties without off road parking but sadly in my experience the council officials are not sufficiently informed. One had no idea that your Octopus rate was available.
Just to note itās not a fixed rate it charges but roughly size of battery over rate.
You can see in this video where the Ioniq charges 6% to 100% in 42 mins. It drops the rate in the middle (to avoid lithium plating) and after 90% full. As you can see in the video splash it reaches 225 kW.
Also nobody is going to be charging from zero (or to 100% unless they need to for a long journey).
In the same way you donāt risk a petrol car going on fumes before reaching the petrol station.
We think the UK is at a tipping point, with electric car sales set to soar, once drivers overcome the many myths.
Weāre often asked about motoring trends and the next big thing around the corner.
With sales of new electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles doubling last year, the AA is keen to encourage the uptake of EVs and to develop partnerships to help develop and maintain infrastructure, training and servicing to help drivers make the most of the EV revolutionā
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We have a Nissan Leaf so it charges via our tethered Type 2 cable at 32A (7kW). We schedule charging based on need the next day through our Ohme cable geting to either 70% (automatic schedule setup) or 100% (set manually if we are expecting a long journey the next day). When Iāve monitored closely I have seen consistent 30A + going into the car.
This is the important point to remember. With an EV the best bejaviour is not use it until the ālow batteryā light comes on and then recharge (as you would in an ICE vehicle), but to use it and top up back up. That way itās ready when you need it and whilst people consider 3.7kW or 7kW to be slow it does not matter.
Theyāre keen to encourage it but I bet theyāre in no rush to replace their fleet with EVs. Thatās going to be costly and require an overhaul of how they operate.
Speaking of which. Can you get electric flatbeds and tow trucks?
