Yes that is the way to assess the cost, sadly it is a calculation that often is overlooked.
BIK is another expense example that I have discovered talking to some potential beneficiaries is one that is overlooked because they haven’t a clue how much they would save, mostly because they are unaware of the applicable rates.
Additionally the RAC point out that EVs are also exempt from car tax, meaning there’s a further saving of nearly £500 over three years, which equates to £163 a year. This means that between fuel and car tax, EV drivers can be over £1,300 a year better off than those in petrol or diesel cars.
That would leave you with the potential saving from free parking in many places and of course the serendipity moment of finding a charger on free vend.
Why is it always 45kph for the top speed for electric motorbikes etc? Is that some sort of legal limit? I was looking at e scooters at one point and they were almost all topping out at that exact speed.
I think inevitably councils are going to have to assign a parking space to a property. Basically turn all residential areas into permit zones. Then somehow the charge points need to hook in to your domestic supply… Otherwise, electric will be least affordable in dense cities just where it’s most needed
Well it seems that the message has got through to employees of Asda because Next Green Car report:
Asda said that 85% of employees who chose a company car as part of their benefits package last year had already chosen an electric car.
Asda’s company car policy and also the available models were adjusted as a result, meaning that employees at headquarters and in the field will in future be able to choose “from a wide range of makes and models.” Picked out in the memo are the Audi Q4 e-tron, Mercedes EQA and EQC, Tesla Model 3, Polestar 2, VW ID.3 and ID.4, and the electric version of the Volvo XC40.
The news comes after the NHS announced earlier this month that it is adding 500 Nissan Leafs to its fleet through its offshoot NHS Fleet Solutions.
We have seen evidence that many employees of NHS have taken advantage of a Salary Sacrifice scheme.
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I think it’s a legal thing the 45km/h pops up in European laws too.
I think two speeds of classification 25km/h and 45km/h for “speed” e-bikes, scooters etc
I know France brought in a new law threatening imprisonment for modding them to higher speeds.
Category AM
You can drive 2-wheeled or 3-wheeled vehicles with a maximum design speed of over 25km/h (15.5mph) but not more than 45km/h (28mph).
This category also includes light quad bikes with:
unladen mass of not more than 350kg (not including batteries if it’s an electric vehicle)
maximum design speed of over 25km/h (15.5mph) but not more than 45km/h (28mph)
Edit:
USA/Canada chose 32km/h (20mph) top speed.
So yeah looks like 25km/h, 32km/h, and 45km/h are the limits.
There’s a 75 minute limit at the moment on our local ones and then they charge you a tenner for overstaying your welcome. It’s in free vend until end of October though so that’s likely why the fee is in place. No news about what the fees are afterwards or even how much they be charging to plug a car in and fill up
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You’d think so, to be fair I’ve checked the webapp a few times and they don’t always appear to be utilised at least and that’s on free vend.
It’s just annoying that they don’t give an indication of what it would cost to charge once that free period comes to a close. Can’t really work out in your head any kind of sums when they aren’t forthcoming.
I might email them tomorrow actually just to see what they say.
I think turning street parking into residents only on lots of streets and running charging hookups under the pavement could work for a lot of people. Our street has been completely resurfaced, all the lampposts replaced, every mains fuse has been dug out and replaced, all in the last few years. A little coordination and it would have been the perfect time to put in per-house charge points along the kerb
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I probably sound like a broken record at this point but we really don’t need charging points for every house.
We just need every existing fuel station to add in the 350 kW chargers.
Charging time just needs to get down to the 2-3mins to be acceptable drive in, charge whilst your stood there, and drive off as we do with ICE.
We have the ionity charges but only in services atm.
We have the time down to 5-10 mins and 270 kW vehicles already.
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All batteries have thermal controls and throttle the speed automatically usually over 80% full and the newer 800 volt batteries are specifically designed to withstand ultra fast charging again and again without degradation.
These modern batteries are being designed to take more cycles than the lifetime of the car. So in 10yrs of ownership you’ll still be fine.
It’s a job for the scientists to keep improving thermal tech and the sales people to make people aware it’s actually fine to charge your car fast as that’s what it’s been designed for.
The modern cars don’t need to be drip fed at 7 kW for their life with the occasion rapid charge.
The current tech in the Taycan will take a few years before it trickles down to normal cars, we are already seeing the Ioniq 5 with its charging in a semi affordable price point.
The idea of everyone trying to get their own 7 kW source is like buying your own petrol in barrels and syphon it into your car on your drive.
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It’s just a shame that they’ve mounted the iPad style screen vertically. Tesla learned that people can view things better and utilise the screen more when it is horizontal so have rotated theirs in newer models. Things like the map in when using sat nav, watching videos, and split screen (to name a few) they claim are better. It makes sense to me but
I’m just messing with the finance quotes…
5,000 miles is a little too low and that’s a 4 year lease as well. If you set it to 3 years and 10,000 miles it is nearly £600 a month - which is getting near Tesla model 3 prices that have longer range and such.
Whilst I like the idea of an electric car, I honestly can’t see it being a viable option at the moment.
My current runabout does nearly 60mpg and can be replaced with a new one every 3 years for £129 a month.
I only do about 5000 miles a year, so the extra expense wouldn’t be offset by any savings in fuel costs.
I have considered a hybrid, but even those are a lot more expensive.
If anyone has any ideas as to how I could change, I’d love to hear them.
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