Are you ready for an electric car?

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The Tesla Roadster is the car I’m keeping an eye on… 0-60 in 1.1 seconds :scream:

I’m not sure this will ever be road legal but damn that’s fast:

Elon claims he can do better and he is tweaking it to get the car to hover slightly as well :confused:

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Just reporting in.
I’ve had my Renault Zoe ZE50 R135 for 15 months. Couple of mildly interesting stats;

  • No mechanical issues at all.

  • Only driven around 2,500 miles (pandemic plus working from home = hardly driven it at all)

  • Used approximately 625kWh of electricity

  • Total ‘Fuel’ cost approximately £40 (charged at home roughly once a month on Octopus Go tariff for 5p per kWh).

  • Average of 4 miles per kWh overall (as low as 2 mpkWh in the winter, versus as high as 8 in the summer):

  • Average round trip distance: 15.5 miles

  • Average of 200 miles per 100% battery charge:

  • Fairly wide range of estimates for mileage remaining (as low as 150 miles from a full charge in the winter versus 245 miles in the summer).

Overall really satisfied with the car. Looking forward to doing some road trips and getting more use out of it once the restrictions start easing up even further.

Already looking ahead to what my next car might be in 3 years. Current contenders include;

There will no doubt be plenty more to chose from by then, so who knows.

Any questions, hit me up.


Love love love the graphs!

Curious about summer vs winter though. I’d have thought it would be the other way around with aircon working hard to keep you cool. Is it because there isn’t the heat generated from the engine to keep you warm?

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The battery is cooler in the winter. Cooler battery = less efficient battery. So it can’t propel you as far per kWh of energy. Electric cars generally have longer range in the summer. It probably doesn’t help that my journeys are so short, so the battery rarely has enough time to get up to temperate and perform more efficiently.

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You can see the same effect with mobile phones, or digital cameras. Colder they are, the less they work.


You’ve packed a lot into that statement :flushed:

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The thoughts of many, I suspect (certainly me, anyway).

And in a nutshell…? :point_down:t3:

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I’m not sure how you’re calculating that… almost all new EVs are >200 miles, the better ones are over 300… so it’s between 1 and 2 stops for a 500 mile journey which you can mix in with your toilet breaks.

Charging is typically 30 minutes, if you’re going empty to full.

And it’s not like that’s a daily commute, very few people go anywhere near that distance more than a couple of times a year.


Model S Plaid announced yesterday. 0-60 in 1.9 seconds. £120k. Crazily cool steering wheel too! :sunglasses:

Time to save up :eyes:


These are some of the figures of the larger battery options.

Hyundai Kona Electric - 300 miles
Hyundai Ioniq 5 - 300 miles

VW ID4 - 310 miles
VW ID3 - 336 miles
Skoda Enyaq iV - 316 miles

Kia EV6 - 316 miles

Ford Mustang Mach-E - 379 miles

Tesla Model S - 412 miles
Tesla Model 3 - 360 miles
Tesla Model X - 360 miles

So you may need to stop three times for those attempting to do this journey of 874 miles.


For everyone else doing 74 miles as a long drive its probably fine in a 200+ mile version. :sweat_smile:

For that one time I might want to attempt to drive to Scotland for a holiday I would welcome a few 30 min stops regardless of what is powering the car.


874 miles at £6/ Gallon diesel compared to 15p/KWh.

My Kona over last 30 months has averaged 4.8 miles per KWh, equivalent to range of 307 miles.

You do the maths :rofl:

Coincidently carwow’s new upload is doing 571-miles Scotland to London…

I’d have the Audi. So…

270 kW charging 10-80% full in 21 mins
150 kW charging 10-80% full in 31 mins
100 kW charging 10-80% full in 42 mins

150 kW charging 10-80% full in 40 mins
75 kW charging 10-80% full in 68 mins

In that vid above he mentions 252 watt hours about 4 miles per KWh which seems pretty ace for the Tesla S. :+1: Then later about 3.7 per KWh, but its miles ahead of Audi 2.8 per KWh

Are the quoted ranges on electric cars more accurate than mpg on “normal cars”.

For example, my car is supposed to do 65 mpg but I actually get ~25. So they probably got the initial figure from coasting the car downhill because I’ve never got anywhere near that with normal use :laughing:

Rolling road at a constant speed, probably. While in the real world cars are always slowing down and speeding up, and that’s what wrecks MPG. Every time you break you’re effectively throwing away all the money you’ve spent on getting your car up to speed (through burning fuel), my driving instructor told me.

Means I end up getting mad when there’s congestion on the motorway - most people will speed up into a gap and brake to a halt when traffic stops again; me, I’ll try and strike a constant speed so that regardless of the size of the gap in front of me, I’m moving at all times - then idiots will go “Ooh, a gap!” move in and make me have to break. &%*!

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I barely stop on a long-trip. Fuel, grab a sandwich to eat while I’m driving and have a wee and I’m gone again. 10 mins absolute max. The frustration at having to wait 30 mins to charge puts me off. I guess it’s a bit different if you have kids and you stop for longer to give them a break.

The availability of charging stations is also an issue. I know that if I pull into a fuel station, it’s unlikely all pumps are full, but if they are, within a minute or two people are leaving because it doesn’t take long to fill up.

If all charging stations are taken up, by their nature people use them for longer so you could be waiting 40 mins because someone is having a cheeky Nandos while they wait. I know this is improving but it’s still a pain.

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I’m sure it’s changed but it was typically calculated with the car at approx 56 mph in top gear on a flat road. So enough power to propel the car forward with minimal engine load. I’ll bet the driver was a naked supermodel and a strong wind was blowing in the same direction as the car too.


For me that would involve waking them up to get them out of the car, so I too would prefer to just get there asap and allow the kids to have a nice rest without going crazy with boredom.

In that video where they do 571 miles they spend an hour charging in total.

And they mention if it was petrol/diesel they would have still stopped for 45mins. Which seems fair, unless you are a coffee fiend with a large bladder.

Avg speed of ~60 thats 10 hours. 15mins added on that journey meh.